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Old 12-09-2002, 04:55 PM
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What a great weekend!! We were at willow springs again this weekiend (thats two weekends in a row up there)for the TCRA event.
We arrived early friday afternoon to get everything set up for the weekend and to start doing a few adjustments to the suspension and some tuning to the motor.

Huntley Racing showed up sometime around 10:30pm that night. We were excited, finally, a race between the two teams was about to be a reality!!

Saturday morning and the call for the first practice session..It was close, our times were almost identical between Huntley Racing and Anderson Motorworks, I was a little nervous, but I also knew we had some adjustments to make..so we calmed down and stuck to the plan...tune the car, and just get it ready for the qualifying session later in the day.

We run another practice session...and the car is getting much better, the handling is really starting to show and the car is sticking pretty good. I kept tuning, wanting everybit we could get. I knew Huntley was there to race and they had a built 914/6 and a 951 they were throwing against us.

Qualifying round. Derrek ends up a position behind us, and Ikes 914/6 is not racing. After a warm up lap, the green flag drops...Derreks takes to the dirt on the far side of the track to gain a position on our car...he keeps the lead on us until round three, we are all over him ...not able to do enough damage on the straights and pull away from us, I knew it was just time until we pass Derrek...he is a very good defensive driver, Neal backs off, and on lap three, Neal and Derrek are screaming down the straight, diving into turn #1 very hard, Derreks goes wide and off track...Neal makes his break and puts Derrek behind him...

Now we are gaining on another 951...and we take him about lap 9 and start to close in on the Vette. on the last lap the 951 takes his position back, so we finish the race in fourth place.

1-Don Dicker, 996
2-2002 Vette
3-951
4-Anderson Motorworks 84 944 NA

Sunday we only drive in practice session two, to get the car ready...we are off the track in five laps. The car is ready!

call to grid for the race, HUntley Racing left early in the day to head home, and the other 951 dropped out due to valve problems...so we are now in the three spot, behind the Vette and the 996 taking the lead.

THe green flag drops and we get a good start, quickly leaving the traffic behind. By lap three, We pass the vette, and that leaves the 996 in front...we know we can't catch him, so Neal just keeps his position for the remainder of the race..and we finish 2nd in GT3, and 5TH overall.

It was a great weekend!!!

1-Don Dicker 996
2-Anderson Motorworks 84 944na
3-2002 Vette

Very fun time!!!

"see you at the track"!!!!
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We enjoyed running this weekend at Willow. The Touring Car Club is a great organization to run with, especially with a new driver since they have many slower groups to build confidence in a new driver. We brought up Chris Williams daily driver (a 87' 951 with HR-MAF, HR-Coil-overs and the required safety equipment, booming stereo system too!!), the Huntley Racing HSR 916/6 2.0 ltr, and Tony Garcia came with his daily driver (88' 951 with big turbo/MAF and HR-Coil-overs). Chris ran in the time trial group with Tony and I drove Chris's car in the Red Race group. Ike ran in the Purple race group for 2.2 ltr and lower cars. I was amazed how well Chris's daily driver did against Anderson's full-blown racecar! With a 900+ lb advantage, 275 Hoosiers on big 17" rims, stiff chassis with a full cage, low center of weight etc... the Anderson car was only a few tenths of a second faster all weekend! The other surprise was seeing our little 2.0 ltr 914 pass the Anderson 3.1 ltr on the front straight like they were chained down!! Our 914/6 was in 2nd place in it's race group on Saturday until a poorly driven Opal tagged us in the left corner and broke the car for the weekend <img src="graemlins/cussing.gif" border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" /> Chris's car was cooking the tires off it because they were so small and the car was so heavy but we continued to run-what-we-brung until those old water hoses he said 'will go a little longer', didn't!! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> We popped the hood to a 20 ft geyser out of this tiny pin sized hole Tony was running 3rd place overall in the BLUE group on Saturday turning 1:42 laps but his street tires started chunking so he stayed home Sunday. Chris climbed up to a 1:41, not bad for his first time out!! He had a massive OFF in turn nine spinning outside then back around inside at well over 100 MPH making his car a new shade of desert brown instead of silver <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" /> . Ike turned a 1:33 in the 914/6. I turned a 1:34 lap in Chris's car. So with lots of good track time under our belts, an officially banished Opal driver <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" /> , a little less fiberglass on our 914 than we came with <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" /> , a couple gallons less coolant <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> , and a couple of bottles less Vodka <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" /> we headed home. I'm just wondering what Anderson is going to do when our regular race car, the Boxster runs against him in the same GT3 class!?!? Or if we really want to mess with him we could jump the 914/6 2.0 ltr up from the -2.2 ltr class to the +3.0 ltr class just to mess with him!! <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
Old 12-10-2002, 11:33 AM
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All I have to say Derrek, is quit talking, and just show up ready to race. YOur "Huntley Racing", and you show up in your uh hum...street cars? Don't you OWN any race cars???

It was a great weekend, we were faster, look at the sheets, you posted a 35.4 we posted a 33.7, our average MPH was faster than you, and we crossed the finish line of the qual race a good MINUTE before you did, hardly a few tenths faster, I'd say a whole lot faster!

As for that boxster, just like the zebra, where is it, and just bring it.

Ikes 914/6 is very fast...I said that, but our times also beat his, so I fail to see, how he passed us like we were chained down...Although its not cool to drag Ike into this, I'm sure he was having as much fun as we were, but he was not racing in our group.

You were found wanting Derrek. Period. You packed up and left. We finished and got second place in GT3 :-)

So...quit sling'n, and start bring'n...

We'll be there.

"see you at the track"
Old 12-10-2002, 01:14 PM
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We support not only our racecars but also our customer’s cars, which are not always full blown racecars. This weekend was about supporting Chris's car and helping him dial it in. Are you really trying to compare your full track car to a streetcar?? That would be amusing for you to pat yourselves on the back for staying one position ahead of Chris's daily driver, no?

As far as the Boxster goes, where were you when we ran California Speedway and beat the 996 that beat you over the weekend?? I challenge you to run the next Touring car event against the Boxster if you have the *****. Surly the race will be fair, right? We are all GT3 cars so we must be even, just like Chris's streetcar is even, right? I doubt you will show.

Our fastest lap this weekend in one of the practice sessions was a 1:34.2 in Chris's streetcar. That is very very fast for that car, and yes we were impressed with it's times. The car was severely under tired, overweight, undersprung, and underdeveloped.....why? Because he drove it to work yesterday, and will every day this week....It is his daily driver. We can't put super stiff springs, big sway bars, wide rims and big slicks, we can't gut the car etc...I was adjusting the power mirrors down the front straight for crying out loud!! I think you guys were left 'wanting' if all you could do was stay one place ahead of this car. You couldn't even pass me in it until I went off! For all the talk the 'Anderson' car looks like a lame duck with little chance of closing the deal against 'real' racecars if it can just barely edge out a streetcar.
Old 12-10-2002, 02:00 PM
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Derrek, you came to beat us. You spread the word localy that you wanted to have faster cars on the track. You failed, most on this list don't know you or your abilities to "spin" your way around. You count on that. We have video, and digital stills, we have the signed time sheets...we will post them all on our website.

And once and for all, your Boxster is a dream, a joke, and pile. Quit tossing it out there like you race it. You entered one event, lost your brakes, blew a main, got black flagged...and poof, pack it up and head home...DNF, DNS, WHE (went home early).

You did not beat Don Dicker, I'm sure he'd like to hear your stories on that one...LOL, Your talking about the candidate for POC R5 champion for crying out loud.

Derrek, you have not entered a car in a real race and finished in over a year. The last race you ran, and finished, with results that you can show...was the POC last year when you and I prepped that red "street driven 951" . You did pretty good. And you finished, thats what racing is Derek, being there...running, and lasting. The checkered flag...remember what it looks like?

I'm going to post the link to the TCRA site, showing your great weekend of racing for all to see...Lets see you back out of this one.

Quit challenging me Derrek, your not up to it.

Here is the link to the results of the race that you claim you beat the 996 Owned and Driven by Don Dicker. Don started in 4th, you started in 26th..you don't even have a time to post on the results.

Derrek Wrote:
"As far as the Boxster goes, where were you when we ran California Speedway and beat the 996 that beat you over the weekend??"

<a href="http://www.touringcarclub.com/events/events_past020921.htm" target="_blank">http://www.touringcarclub.com/events/events_past020921.htm</a>


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Old 12-10-2002, 02:38 PM
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John,

I can argue that Derrek did NOT come to beat you. The 951 is MY car, not Derrek's. He offered to co-drive my car to dial in the suspension, alignment, tuning, etc. I came to have a great time on the track - my first time on a big track actually. All I can say is that in all honesty, there is no competition between your race car, and my street car. Your car is much better suited for its purpose, which is racing. My car, on the other hand is much better suited for its purpose, getting my *** around comfortably (and of course impressing the occational hottie ). Personally, I could care less how well your car did against mine. Let me re-emphasise this point... the 951 is MINE. It is not Derrek's. Yes, he did a ton of great work on it for me with the suspension, engine stuff, etc. No, it is not one of his race cars. No, it is not meant to ever compete realistically in a club race situation.

Do you really need to prove that your race car was faster than my street car to make the weekend worthwhile to you? I thought the weekend went great - I didn't ball up the car (though I did have quite a nasty spin off 9 <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> ). Your car was faster than my car when Derrek club raced it... whoopitie doo! If you want to start comparing apples and oranges, why don't we go to a car stereo competition... you can enter your race car, and I'll enter my street car. I wonder who will win? How about a concours? Heck, let's take our cars for a nice Sunday drive up the coast this weekend... oh, that's right... your car can't be driven on the street legally... gee that sucks. We could drag race it @ Qualcomm on Friday night... oh... I forgot, the race legal people require "street legal" cars. SO I guess I could show up and start bragging that my 0-60 blows your car's away since you didn't show.

To summarize my rather lengthy post, I didn't bring my car to the track to race you. Period. The fact that it turned a :34 in practice impressed the hell out of me. The fact that I got a faster time than Tony was a nice bonus (comparing my car to his car is MUCH more appropriate). The fact that Derrek made some suspension changes at the track based on his driving experiences in the club race was great; my car sticks a little better now. By claiming that you beat Huntley Racing is a load of crap. My car wasn't there to be competitive in the club race (the TT is another story). What you essentially did was find a dead dragon, slay its carcass then run around proclaiming your heroisim. I honestly could care less who was faster because its not about that, but its nice to see that you need to be faster than any car Derrek brings to the track (whether its a customer's or his own) to feel good about yourself.

I think that your summary should have read more like this (paraphrased):

We went to the track. It was fun. We turned a 1:xx and finished x place. It was neat because we did x, y, and z to our car to make it xx seconds faster.

Anyway, I think I've rambled enough for now. In the future, don't say a goddamn thing about my car, regardless of who's driving it. Its my car, and since you don't know me, you have no business talking any **** about my ride, or its performance... it doesn't concearn you. If I drove a POS Geo Metro, but had Derrek put a suspension on it for me and club raced it to get the thing dialed in, would you still be talking **** about how much faster you are? If the tires melted off of it, would you start talking about how Huntley Racing didn't show for the main event?

If you built a motor for a customer and the customer did pretty poorly in the race (or didn't finish because they didn't have the cash to bring tons of spare parts for their street car) do you think I would be talking ****? Would Derrek? I don't think so.

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Yeh, what Chris said!! Stop <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" /> John. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
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... and don't think that Derrek tried to convince me to go racing last weekend to show you guys up. Actually, last Sunday, I called Neal to see how his POC racing went. After chatting for a while, he suggested that I come up for the TCRA event and have some fun with my car. It sounded like a good idea to me so I told Derrek that I wanted a suspension and some other little goodies put on, and he had 3 days to do it. So he did. I asked him to co-drive the car with me to get it all dialed in since I don't know jack **** about how the car is supposed to feel with the suspension on it and so forth. So, being the good guy that he is, he offered to bring his rig, tow my car up there, bring his pit crew to support me, etc. In 3 days he got a suspension put on, a wastegate, did an alignment, put in a roll bar, race seat, harnass, battery cut-off, numbers, dyno tuned it, adjusted my sensative brake pedal, got some new Kuhmos for me, mounted my fire extinguisher and camera mount, procured a drum of race gas, put in hard pipes, fixed a few oil leaks, changed the oil, installed a wire-in transponder... everything was ready to go Friday morning before I rolled out of bed. It was truly an arrive and drive set up for me. During the practice sessions, he always pulled off the track early to make sure I got situated in the car and to pre grid on time for my races. He reviewed my videos with me and gave me pointers on how I could improve my driving.

I'm just emphasizing my point that the Huntley Racing presence had absolutely nothing to do with you. It had everything to do with me getting my car dialed in so that I could start having fun with the big boys on a real track instead of a parking lot. I'm never going back to the parking lots... this racing stuff is like crack, and I just took an insane hit from the pipe.

Derrek has his own cars to drive in the upcoming races. I'll be there time trialing (one more "incident free" event and I get a provisional TCRA club license!!). No worries though, as much fun as club racing seems, my car isn't a club racer, and I don't think I'll be club racing it. So in that sense, you don't need to be intimidated by my street car anymore - you'll never have to compete with it again... but I think in the next few months, you'll have bigger fish to fry.
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Funny guys, remember, you hijacked my thread.Look at the top of this topic. Quit hijacking my thread and quit spinning.

Take Care!
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Hijacking your thread??? WTF? First of all, "your" thread - this thread - slung some mud. This is the place to respond to that. Secondly... spinning? Why don't you sit and spin.
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Chris,

If you go to a race, and lose or don't finish, thats your deal.

But Show me where I slamed you? Or your car chris. I re read my first post. was not what I said the truth? Tell me where I lied and I'll accept it. I can't find it. Infact, I didn't say why you left early, did I? I didn't post your results did I? I didn't say we passed your car like it was "chained down" did I? Did we not pass your car with Derrek Driving? We did. Did you not leave before the race? You did. Did we place second in GT3? We did...so where is the spin? I posted our experience of the race, Derrek came in and got pretty mouthy, so I responded. I could care less about your car, if Derrek was driving his Motor home, it wouldn't matter, he brought it to a race, and therefore he needs to accept the outcome, not make excuses for a failure.

I'm sorry I vented your direction Chris. But I cannot see where in my original post of the event, that I said anything about you or your car. Infact, I didn't even mention you owned it.

When we pulled that Vette, do you think he approached us and got upset? No, he said good race. And started asking about our car. People get beat, Things happen. If you placed in good standing at the race, you would like to post about it too. You can't tell me for a minute that if Derrek did infact outrun/pace us in that event that he would not be here ...on this list talking about. You know better than that.

So, I'll not bring your car up again. But I will continue to represent myself when Derrek gets mouthy and starts story telling.

Take Care Chris, and good luck racing.
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[quote]Originally posted by Huntley Racing:
<strong>Our fastest lap this weekend in one of the practice sessions was a 1:34.2</strong><hr></blockquote>



BEST: 1:35.4

thats a 1:2 second difference if I am seeing this correctly. and the race results in the picture are TANGIBLE copies that were taken down from the board at the race.

lets not forget what happens when we lie...




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Old 12-11-2002, 01:56 AM
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<img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> I had to edit....its too well....what ever.
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Wrong session Shaun, nice try. Taking one session out of many and using it, as empirical evidence is silly. Our best lap during the weekend was a 1:34.2 Anderson's was 1:33.7 or so. Anderson was a bit faster than Chris's streetcar, good job. Lots of talent, skill, heroism, heck truly godly performance. Let us bow our heads to the one true Race Car.....ANDERSON's 944!!!! It takes down even the lowliest streetcar with many tenths of a second of advantage. It can finish as much as ONE FULL POSITION AHEAD!!! We will all likely never see this kind of racecar again. She is made from solid unobtanium, runs on liquid gold, and shoots flames of fury to scare every street car from here to the Mississippi! <img src="graemlins/sleep.gif" border="0" alt="[sleep]" />
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Derrek,

You're slippery, I have to hand that to you. We have been able to put to rest each and every claim you have made about the race. But you still dodge and dart...do me a favor, do us all a favor and tell us then....what run did you nail that 34??? We have the sheets, and would like for you to tell us the session.

By the way, you openly stated that we were only a FEW HUNDRETHS faster than you all weekend. You must be using New Math, look at your sheets again, it clearly shows a 1.645 advantage on our part.

We also finsished 1 minute and 8 seconds ahead of you. More than half a lap. In that 320hp at the wheels 951 that you brought up on a fully tweaked coil over setup with race tires, fiberglass body work and cage. HARDLY your daily driver.

You also turned your best lap in 3, 1:35.413, and once you were out of the way, we turned our best in 8, a 1:33.768.

Neal Knew you were overdriving the car and fading, so he laid back to avoid any incidents. When you ran off in 1, Neal was able to run his line

That allowed Neal to catch up to , and pass the next 951 which was in fact a full track preped race car. We ended up giving the position back to that 951 after dueling with the vette in 1.

Just the facts ma'am.


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