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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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I am helping a friend check out a 944 motor this weekend. It has the 10.2 compression pistons. Does anyone know what kind of compression it should have on a compression check? My 83 944 has a 1987 engine in it with 9.6 compression ratio, which has 145-155 lbs. I know the 10.2 's should have more, but I don't know how much more.

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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Umm.. 9.6 for the 87 motor does not sound right, IIRC it is about 10.9 (could be 10.6 or 10.7).
For what it's worth, I have an 86 (which should have the same compression ratio as an 83, which I think is 9.6) and I have been told my numbers should be pushing 200psi, or at least 170-180.
Of course, they are not, in fact they are 110psi... if your friend's are that low, it's rebuild time =)
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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From the factory manuals...

new - 10 bar (145psi). Anything above that is fine.

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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Thanks fellas, I appreciate it. By the way, I am surprised the car with 110 lbs even runs. The lowest I have seen on an early car that ran well was 130

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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Really? 10 bar new? That sounds awfully low. I have heard the numbers should be closer to 200psi...
Although I could be mistaken.


Yeah, it does run... but the emissions are just frightful, and the mileage sucks. The compression is (front to back) 107psi, 112psi, 110psi, 100psi. And if I test it cold, sometimes it's higher, sometimes it's lower. It's strange how that works, but when warm the numbers are pretty consistant. If I do a lot of highway and baby it around town I get 12L/100km. Usually it's around 14-15L/100km =(
That's why it's going to get a diesel.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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I was talking to a Porsche tech today, and he told me some interesting things. He said a lot of things can cause low compression. He said if the battery was low, you wont get a good reading because the motor doesnt spin hard enough. Makes sense, and I had never thought of it.

Dought that is what is wrong with yours, but it is something to think about.

Good luck

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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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I checked my '84 the other day and they were 180psi all round, after about three turns of the engine. No idea what they should be, but i was pleased with my 180's!
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Boy that sounds great. The highest I have ever seen with a 9.6 CR motor was 155, yours must be like brand new.

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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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I have seen numbers over 200, but I don't know exactly which 944 engine it was on, it had been swapped into an 83, but it was an 8V.
My compression is due to the PO (well 2 PO's ago) who let the oil cooler seals go, and drove it for 2 weeks after, with the milkshake oil =(
It killed the main bearings and rings. The oil pressure is really low.
But, like I said, that's why it is getting a diesel.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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The haynes manual says something about compression should be around 150psi i think - and if was too high it could be due to carbon deposits adn you should strip down the head - not likely! My spark plugs looked fine and i think if i keep on maxing the revs on a regular basis it should ensure no carbon gets chance to get deposited.

Also i have read that since i am at sea level that can have quite a significant effect on the compression reading.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 03:02 AM
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It can make a difference of up to 15-20psi against somebody in the mountains.
I am pretty high up, but I doubt I am high enough to make 110psi normal.
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