pumpedTSI

As mentioned in another thread I have purchased an 85 Euro S with the twin dizzy 310 Hp motor AND a supercharger. The car is supposed to be running well with no issues and all gadgets working, it is an auto box. The owner will have all fluids, belts, etc checked prior to my arrival. My son and I have done this twice before from Dallas (1200 miles) and Chicago (1500 miles) as a father/son road trip of sorts, he really likes it. I'm flying up on Friday with my son to drive the car 1500 miles home and had a few questions....I'm a decent mechanic and do all my own work on my S55 and Twin turbo E31 so wrenching on the 928 shouldnt be an issue and is expected. I intend to do a full service when I get her home, fluids, belts,plugs, wires,hoses, etc and whatever she needs.
My question is what should I take with me for the trip home in the way of spares "just in case".....My thoughts are.......small multimeter, a few relays, long nose pliars, fix a flat, fire extinguisher, sandpaper, fuses, rotor arm/cap, coil?
Any other suggestions?

docmirror

CPS, fuel pump, + LH, EZK if you can find a spare pair.

Turbodan

screwdriver and flashlight may come in handy. AAA is also good, oh and a cellphone. rubber gloves.

pumpedTSI

Have the flashlight, vinyl gloves, baby wipes, 4 way screwdriver....
LH is the MAF I assume? Not sure which one this car uses since its a euro with SC...
EZF?? Is that a CPU of sorts?

docmirror

LH is the fuel computer, EZK is the ignition computer both mounted on the side wall of the pax footwell. I think now maybe your car doesn't have those? Sorry, not sure what a Euro 85 has. Call Roger, he'll outfit you right for the trip, and give credit for what you don't use. You'll be buying from him anyway, might as well start out right.

928sRUS.com

Wisconsin Joe

85 Euro (S2) is going to have an LH and an EZF (no knock sensor). Depending on who & how it was federalized, it may have the original Euro boxes, or it may have had US ones installed.

As a suggestion for "road trip supplies":

Copy of WSM & PET (I had digital copies on my laptop)
Halfway decent set of tools (combo wrenches, gear wrenches, ratchet & sockets, a few screwdrivers & pliers)
Spare fuel pump (maybe)

Stuff that should be in the car anyway:
Multimeter (HF has one they give away as a "with any purchase" coupon - I have like 5 of them)
Bosch 53 relays (standard relay for a bunch of stuff in the CE panel)
Relay jumper
fuses
Flashlight

PLUS:

Roger on speed dial
Credit card
list of U-haul places along the way (worst case, rent a small truck and a trailer & tow the thing the rest of the way home - One of the race guys had to do that to get home from the Silver State a couple years ago)

pumpedTSI

Thanks Joe......I wouldnt mind buying a spare coil, CPS or fuel pump at the local parts joint (since I have no time to have them shipped) but Im not even sure what pump/coil/CPS to get and if they are even available? Cap/rotor are from 944? Just not sure how the euro differs with part # vs similar year US model.

Wisconsin Joe

Good luck finding much at any local parts store. Yes, I'm reasonably sure the coil, cap & rotor are same as 944 (and are standard Bosch parts, so you might find those). But I wouldn't worry much about the coil. They are pretty durable.

Crank position sensor and fuel pump are a bit more specialized. You might find them, you might not.

I think fuel pumps are same for the early cars.

I also think Roger will overnight stuff.

pumpedTSI

Thanks Joe......I remember from back in the day I used to use a Bosch "red" coil (it was red go figure) which was "supposed" to be a high performance version of the regular coil? Ever heard of it?
I have my kit already together but I'm afraid the parts on this car wont be able to be verified until I actually HAVE the car at which point I can source them.
Who is Roger and do you have a contact # for him?

Rob Edwards

Which supercharger and who tuned it once installed?

pumpedTSI

From what I can see its a Vortech unit? Looks like a V2? The current owner doesnt know much about it.....he's not a car guy, got the car as part payment for some work he did for the original owner who imported it from germany originally. He says the original owner had the SC installed and that the car runs very well but his mechanical knowledge is zero.
I'm looking forward to finding out more about it when I get her home.

Wisconsin Joe

No, but that's not a surprise. I've only been into Porsches for about 10 years or so.

"Roger" is Roger Tyson. Transplanted Brit who lives in Texas, selling German car parts (go figure).

His outfit is 928s R Us: http://www.928srus.com/

He posts on here as "ROG100": https://rennlist.com/forums/members/11867-rog100.html

Well known on here, trusted vendor, truly loves these cars (has a whole bunch), knows them inside and out.

The "Parts Supplier Extraordinaire" on his card is not hyperbole. He's done a lot to cultivate parts sources for these cars. He stands behind his products, and when a mistake happens (he's good, but still human) he does whatever is necessary to make it right.

He's also a hell of a nice guy (well, don't ask the Iowa State Police their opinion).

One of the "Big Four" vendors mentioned in the "New Visitor" sticky. You read that, right?

pumpedTSI

My red coil usage was on Mitsubishis but regardless.....Nice to know Rogers a brit...I'm from N. Ireland myself and this is my second Porsche (944 moons ago) so I'll keep his info on hand. Hopefully I wont need it on the trip but most probably when I get her back and start going thru it.

I'm actually reading the New visitor thread now....good stuff.

jcorenman

There's a bunch of stuff that can age and cause problems slowly, but not so many that will cause "sudden death" on a mere 1500 mile trip. ECUs (LH2.2 and EZF) are pretty robust. MAFs age slowly and can cause the engine to run lean, but not on a short trip.

Relays certainly, although you can always steal the horn relay for the fuel pump.

And a fuel pump would be at the top of my list, having been stuck a couple of times because of those rascals. Older fuel pumps and today's fuel blends don't seem to get along. The '85 Euro uses a 928-608-104-01 pump, plus 7 & 8 mm wenches for the terminals and clamps, 10 mm for the cover and a set of end and flare wrenches for the fittings-- 17 & 19 mm IIRC. If you have all that stuff then you won't need it.

CPS is a pain to get to, they do fail but rarely. Ditto coils (you have two) and other ignition parts, fail rarely and usually under high load. Stay off the boost until you get it home and checked out. Maybe take a set of plugs (Bosch W7DCR), you don't know what's in there.

pumpedTSI

Thanks for the advice JC......it was my intention to drive her back in NA (normally aspirated) mode and stay out of the boost.....I dont want to start pressurizing an unknown SC system and associated hoses or strain the fuel delivery system.
I dont want to end up changing a CPS but isnt it on top of the bell housing against the bulkhead under where the airbox usually sits? This car has no airbox back there so it "should" be more accessible?

His local shop is checking everything over tomorrow and changing the oil before the trip.......I'll also try and keep the tank full and not overload the charging system with unnecessary items (heated seats, etc)