G Man

I would like to replace the headlights on my 81' with the flat face type. Is there a direct replacement for the stock size lights. I don't want the expense of going to the larger size light. I would like to go to a little higher wattage for more light while keeping the stock relay,wiring harness, etc... I have seen discussions here in the past onthis subject but was unable to find any info in the archives. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

Jim V

The ones I've got are Hella units, 7" H4.
I know there was a lister selling these sets at one time, if he doesn't chime in, check your area for imports specialty parts stores or do a web search for them. The Big 3 may carry them or be able to get them also.

Jessa

My 7 inch H4s came from 928 Specialists. Others may carry them as well.

Jim bailey - 928 International

J C Whitney ( one of the oldest mail order auto parts companies ) has a wide choice of 7 inch halogen lights (hi low) and H-4 bulbs of various flavors ........all illegal BUT much brighter . They fit right on the headlight bracket for 78-86 USA cars does leave you with the stupid plastic/chrome trim ring ...that was a cruel joke on the part of the Porsche engineers forced to put 7 inch seal beam headlights on the USA 928s by federal law . Think about it , it is the only chrome on a 928 (except for 1978 door locks).....and it is plastic ....

Lizard928

I just picked up a set of 7" bosch lenses and then picked up a set of 55/60watt piaa xtreme super platnum white, provide nice lighting but am considering running a relay with some bigger wire and going up to PIAA 100/90watts very illegal, but at least then I can see

Randy V

Go with 8" H4 or H5 - updates the look of the car, and allows you to throw those silly chrome trim rings away.

BrianG

Hella light units are NOT flat lenses. CiBie did have such a lens and I think Bosch did also.
The lighting units you want are defined as "E-code" (E for European) units. These are NOT D.O.T. approved, have no "aiming lugs" on the lens (no longer necessary), and they throw a much cleaner beam that irritates oncoming drivers MUCH less when you ramp up the wattage.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Ah Randy , how would fitting the original initial 1977 designed for the car unique to the 928 8 inch H -4 be considered an "update" ? It is a backdate return to the stylists original intent . You do not like those plastic chrome plated trim rings either ?

morganabowen

Your right Jim, we live in a world of "RETRO"

Randy V

OK Jim - it updates the look of the US model cars to what they are supposed to look like.

I used those trim rings on the small burners of my stovetop - same size, but they tend to melt...

Mark

Here ya go Randy...A ring on eBay - currently only $1.

Cheaper than the replacements at the store for your STOVE!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2439327440

Randy V

Great deal - until you factor in the $10 shipping and handling charges...

Jim V

Brian, I'm certain Hella makes more that one unit; the ones I have are flat H4 units, made in Germany and they throw out the shaped beam patterns.
I don't know what E code is but there is an "E4" in a circle cast into the lenses. Clearly stated on the box "Not DOT approved, for off-road use only"

Harpo

I'm a little slow here so let me be sure I've got it straight-- I can put 8 inch H-4 or H-5 lights in the same housing with no upgrade in wiring or relays and just skip the chrome ring?

How much is light improved over the standard issue sealed beams I have now?

Where do I buy them? Do you have a contact for the catalog mentioned above?

Thank you, Mark

G Man

Hey all, thanks for the input. Can I upgrade to the 100/80 watt lights without modifications to my existing setup. I ask this, assuming that the stock lights are the 60/55 watt version.