The $4000 < - - - - - - - - - - - - - > $11,000 gap . . .
10-14-2016, 07:14 PM
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Not so much anymore, even those are starting to gain a following as the pure, lightweight sports car of the trans-axle family: Before I went on my 928 buying spree in 2014 I was quietly shopping for a nice survivor 924. Too late.....not paying what they are going for today.
I can get 924s up here all day for around $1k.
10-15-2016, 01:23 AM
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So I don't know about you guys, but I bought my 928 to drive it (eh em once I get it running) not to speculate on what I could sell it on for like a stock. I'm in it for the for the long haul. I bought mine for $4500 and like Greg said it probably needs $45K, but that is if I want it to be perfect. I don't need it to be perfect. I plan to own this car for at least the next 30 years. So instead of blowing my load all at once I will invest in upragading it slowly and steadily every year and enjoy it for what it is. Now in 30 years if I decide to sell it, it will feel like pure profit at what ever it's worth by then. Because money I will have spent on it up till then would have been money I spent on other things had I never owned the car. Either way it won't be in my bank account in 30 years. But the money from that sale will be. 
10-15-2016, 06:14 AM
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LOL. Now someone calling a 928 a "good entry level Porsche," this must be a person who is overly focused on money issues. Because I'm fairly sure that no 356 has ever been north of 150 mph, or gone 0-60 in under 6.5 seconds. Porsche 928 people have their priorities straight--it's not how much your car is worth, it's what it can do on the road that counts.
10-15-2016, 09:30 AM
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So can I, but those are not the cars I'm talking about (did you click on the links I posted?)
It wasn't all that long ago you could buy a well sorted, documented 924 for not a lot of money.
Different strokes, compared to what a well sorted 356 goes for (especially a speedster) even the most expensive 928's are still pennies on the dollar by comparison.
Seriously? Go to a vintage car race.
Maybe you are too focused on a car being slow because it only has "X" HP and forget they can easily weigh less than half of most 928's. A well setup 356 is a serious sportscar, there is a reason they are so popular and it's not just because they can be worth a small fortune these days.
It wasn't all that long ago you could buy a well sorted, documented 924 for not a lot of money.
I was talking to 356 guy yesterday, polite small talk. When I mentioned my 928 restoration, he said that was a good "entry level" Porsche.
The term made my eye twitch, and I wanted to tell him it was actually the flag ship car at the time....
I bit my tongue, however. It seemed counter productive to go off on a 80 year old man. Perhaps I've matured somewhat...
The term made my eye twitch, and I wanted to tell him it was actually the flag ship car at the time....
I bit my tongue, however. It seemed counter productive to go off on a 80 year old man. Perhaps I've matured somewhat...
Originally Posted by safulop
Now someone calling a 928 a "good entry level Porsche," this must be a person who is overly focused on money issues. Because I'm fairly sure that no 356 has ever been north of 150 mph, or gone 0-60 in under 6.5 seconds.
Maybe you are too focused on a car being slow because it only has "X" HP and forget they can easily weigh less than half of most 928's. A well setup 356 is a serious sportscar, there is a reason they are so popular and it's not just because they can be worth a small fortune these days.
10-15-2016, 05:22 PM
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Seriously? Go to a vintage car race.
Maybe you are too focused on a car being slow because it only has "X" HP and forget they can easily weigh less than half of most 928's. A well setup 356 is a serious sportscar, there is a reason they are so popular and it's not just because they can be worth a small fortune these days.
10-15-2016, 05:51 PM
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10-15-2016, 06:28 PM
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I was talking to 356 guy yesterday, polite small talk. When I mentioned my 928 restoration, he said that was a good "entry level" Porsche.
The term made my eye twitch, and I wanted to tell him it was actually the flag ship car at the time....
I bit my tongue, however. It seemed counter productive to go off on a 80 year old man. Perhaps I've matured somewhat...
Anyway, it would seem as much buzz as we have gotten lately, there's still plenty of misconception left out there too, maybe enough to allow people to get a few more deals?
As was mentioned, I have seen the 944 market go up recently, but then again the car was likely pretty undervalued.
The term made my eye twitch, and I wanted to tell him it was actually the flag ship car at the time....
I bit my tongue, however. It seemed counter productive to go off on a 80 year old man. Perhaps I've matured somewhat...
Anyway, it would seem as much buzz as we have gotten lately, there's still plenty of misconception left out there too, maybe enough to allow people to get a few more deals?
As was mentioned, I have seen the 944 market go up recently, but then again the car was likely pretty undervalued.
10-16-2016, 12:50 AM
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Look, I love vintage sports cars too, I owned a 944 for 12 years and I dearly miss that 144 hp 4-cylinder car. All I am trying to say is, it takes a real moron to describe a 928 as an "entry-level Porsche", on so many levels I can't even explain.
10-16-2016, 01:22 AM
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The 4ish to 11k gap is any 4k 928 needs 8k More invested in parts and DIY to be a DD.
Any for sale less than 5k just look good., any near the 8k mark look good, but still need a couple k to be a dependable driver,.
A low mile high dollar 928 Will still cost $$$ just to keep maintained.
Any for sale less than 5k just look good., any near the 8k mark look good, but still need a couple k to be a dependable driver,.
A low mile high dollar 928 Will still cost $$$ just to keep maintained.
10-16-2016, 11:19 AM
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If you are finding well sorted 924's for $500, let me know.
On that note......0-60 in under "6.5 seconds" isn't anything to brag about. A Honda Accord V-6 can beat that all day long and twice on Sunday.
In the Porsche world, the average cost of entry for a 928 is on the low end of the family hierarchy. Nobody is talking about cost of ownership here, but even then, if you think a 928 is any more expensive or complicated to own compared to other Porsche's, you are the one that is misinformed - see my first comment in this thread.
I don't get why people get offended by other not "fully respecting" the 928. Who the hell cares?
We have people bragging in thread after thread about the "cheap" 928's they scored. IMO they are one of the best bargains in the collector car world......because of a cheap cost of entry........
10-16-2016, 05:50 PM
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Entry Level is referring to the Cost of entry.
In the Porsche world, the average cost of entry for a 928 is on the low end of the family hierarchy. Nobody is talking about cost of ownership here, but even then, if you think a 928 is any more expensive or complicated to own compared to other Porsche's, you are the one that is misinformed - see my first comment in this thread.
I don't get why people get offended by other not "fully respecting" the 928. Who the hell cares?
We have people bragging in thread after thread about the "cheap" 928's they scored. IMO they are one of the best bargains in the collector car world......because of a cheap cost of entry........
Entry Level is referring to the Cost of entry.
In the Porsche world, the average cost of entry for a 928 is on the low end of the family hierarchy. Nobody is talking about cost of ownership here, but even then, if you think a 928 is any more expensive or complicated to own compared to other Porsche's, you are the one that is misinformed - see my first comment in this thread.
I don't get why people get offended by other not "fully respecting" the 928. Who the hell cares?
We have people bragging in thread after thread about the "cheap" 928's they scored. IMO they are one of the best bargains in the collector car world......because of a cheap cost of entry........
10-16-2016, 11:32 PM
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^^^^^^
Yeah that's what I said in the first place, the guy is too focused on money issues. I don't care about the value of cars, I'm not going to own any cars because of their value. So this whole idea of "entry level" because of monetary value is antithetical to what I would seek. "Entry level" is sanctimonious--it implies that I am trying to work my way up to more valuable cars like the $$-obsessed person making the remark, which I am most certainly not.
Yeah that's what I said in the first place, the guy is too focused on money issues. I don't care about the value of cars, I'm not going to own any cars because of their value. So this whole idea of "entry level" because of monetary value is antithetical to what I would seek. "Entry level" is sanctimonious--it implies that I am trying to work my way up to more valuable cars like the $$-obsessed person making the remark, which I am most certainly not.
10-17-2016, 01:25 PM
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