Fuel Injector and Replacement
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Tony, When new the caps are easier to remove than when 16 years old. 928 International and Devek also carry the parts on the Left coast. I too lost some plastic into the manifold and it was a bear to remove. Sorry don't remember the cost. Not much though. Yep you can get upper and lower o rings spacer and caps.
Hang in there you can do it.
Hang in there you can do it.
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Ed, thanks! the new cap on the Ford injector was tight while the old cap from the original injector was loose. Do I need to break the new cap before putting on the complete correct seal kit?
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Dave-thanks for the info. Where did you get yours from? Devek, 928 International, 928 Specialist, or Porsche dealer? Incidentally, the Ford 19# I purchased has 4 holes instead of the single pin style. Does yours has 4 holes as well?
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Ed, thanks again. I thought instead of comparing the color and outlet head type etc, I have decided to gather the part numbers from the injector bodies.
This is what I get:
The injector from the engine (beige and silver color with single pintle orifice)
060-0280150730 with side script 646
The Ford fote D5B 19# injector (orange and sprayed black color with 4 outlets)
927-0280150556 with side script 084
Does anyone know any website that can provide more information and/or cross reference on these two injectors.
As far as the exterior profile, they look identical.
This is what I get:
The injector from the engine (beige and silver color with single pintle orifice)
060-0280150730 with side script 646
The Ford fote D5B 19# injector (orange and sprayed black color with 4 outlets)
927-0280150556 with side script 084
Does anyone know any website that can provide more information and/or cross reference on these two injectors.
As far as the exterior profile, they look identical.
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Porsche 930,
I just scanned through the recent posts but I will add that you should be able to use the stock o rings without removing any of the plastic caps. I was able to take a small screwdriver and pry all the o-rings off and swap them.
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I just scanned through the recent posts but I will add that you should be able to use the stock o rings without removing any of the plastic caps. I was able to take a small screwdriver and pry all the o-rings off and swap them.
HTH
Andy K
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Hi Andy,
I have done exactly that before with a small screwdriver, but because the spacer on the new injector is twice as thick as the original one, there was no free play for the old o-rings to move between the new cap and the new spacer. I tried to "force" the injector into the intake but to no avail because of the tight fit. I think I really need to re-use the original spacer and the original o-ring, but I can only achieve that by breaking the plastic cap first from the new injector. Any advice is appreciate.
Tony
I have done exactly that before with a small screwdriver, but because the spacer on the new injector is twice as thick as the original one, there was no free play for the old o-rings to move between the new cap and the new spacer. I tried to "force" the injector into the intake but to no avail because of the tight fit. I think I really need to re-use the original spacer and the original o-ring, but I can only achieve that by breaking the plastic cap first from the new injector. Any advice is appreciate.
Tony
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mine are the single pintle. you have the newer ones.
the porsche o-ring on the ford injector without swapping caps and spacer ring is a VERY tight fit, but i got them on there.
be sure to coat the o-rings with a little vaseline before installing them...
the porsche o-ring on the ford injector without swapping caps and spacer ring is a VERY tight fit, but i got them on there.
be sure to coat the o-rings with a little vaseline before installing them...
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Dave-I did apply wd-40 on the o-rings but did not work. I have not thought of vaseline, but will certainly try it next weekend. I would not be able to work on this project during the week days. In any case, I may contact the big three and see where I can get the seal kit. Thanks again to you all and have a nice evening!
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Hello everyone...I am excite to report my injector replacement project is now successfully over! I replaced all the injectors with the new Ford D5B on Saturday; my S4 starts right away and idles quite stable now. I actually feel a slightly better throttle response at off the line acceleration. It used to be a little sluggish, but now it is smooth and a little quicker...in any case, I have to replace both upper and lower o-rings, spacers, and the plastic cap with the Porsche injector re-seal kit to make this works. Thank you for all your tips on this project. I am glad the S4 is back on the road again!
Tony
88 S4 automatic
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I have purchased a set of injector O ring replacement kits, 89 GT
Hi,
have purchased an O ring kit for my 928 S4/GT with among others, new yellow caps. For my injectors.
yellow caps do not enter properly and fall off.
how to enter properly?
have purchased an O ring kit for my 928 S4/GT with among others, new yellow caps. For my injectors.
yellow caps do not enter properly and fall off.
how to enter properly?
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It takes some effort to get them to snap on. I press the injector firmly against my work table until I hear the click.