87 S4 Water Pump & Timing Belt Replacement Parts Required
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87 S4 Water Pump & Timing Belt Replacement Parts Required
Ordered Greg Brown's Laso Pump in March and now ready to begin the work, may be last week of August (because noticed coolant leaked a lot in the WP area). My first time for this but with all the reading from this forum, I think I will be ok. Downloaded TB & WP procedures from Dwayne (blessed his hard works on the good procedures & pictures)....
My question is that, beside the Laso water pump, what parts & special tools do I need to complete the job (other than those mentioned in Dwayn's procedures). I plan to rebuild the tensioner, unless you experts have other recommendation (PKT?). Also, where is the best place I can easily order these parts & special tools. Probably not in Houston area? Just want to make sure I have everything. I am in Houston near NRG Stadium area. Need some guidance & tips from TB & WP experts on what else should be done while I'm there and where y'all ordered your materials. Thanks much in advance.
-Hunt
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My question is that, beside the Laso water pump, what parts & special tools do I need to complete the job (other than those mentioned in Dwayn's procedures). I plan to rebuild the tensioner, unless you experts have other recommendation (PKT?). Also, where is the best place I can easily order these parts & special tools. Probably not in Houston area? Just want to make sure I have everything. I am in Houston near NRG Stadium area. Need some guidance & tips from TB & WP experts on what else should be done while I'm there and where y'all ordered your materials. Thanks much in advance.
-Hunt
huntprom@gmail.com
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Step 1 - Call or e-mail Roger at 928s R Us (ROG100 on here).
Step 2 - tell him you are doing a TB/WP job and already have one of Greg's pumps.
Step 3 - Give him payment information and wait for a "care package" to arrive. It will have all the seals, gaskets, pieces & parts you will need.
If your cam gears are worn, you may want to replace them (not cheap for an S4)
If you have an aluminum oil pump gear, you may want to put a steel one on.
Roger will discuss these things (and a couple others) with you in the process of taking your order. His in-depth knowledge of these cars and genuine love for them one of the reasons a phone call with Roger is always a nice experience.
The debate between rebuildingt the factory tensioner and installing a PKT is long and rather heated (Roger sells them)
Rebuilt properly, installed correctly and with the belt properly tensioned, the original tensioner is perfectly adequate. Whether or not the PKT is a better option is...
Controversial. Do your own research and make your own decisions.
Step 2 - tell him you are doing a TB/WP job and already have one of Greg's pumps.
Step 3 - Give him payment information and wait for a "care package" to arrive. It will have all the seals, gaskets, pieces & parts you will need.
If your cam gears are worn, you may want to replace them (not cheap for an S4)
If you have an aluminum oil pump gear, you may want to put a steel one on.
Roger will discuss these things (and a couple others) with you in the process of taking your order. His in-depth knowledge of these cars and genuine love for them one of the reasons a phone call with Roger is always a nice experience.
The debate between rebuildingt the factory tensioner and installing a PKT is long and rather heated (Roger sells them)
Rebuilt properly, installed correctly and with the belt properly tensioned, the original tensioner is perfectly adequate. Whether or not the PKT is a better option is...
Controversial. Do your own research and make your own decisions.
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In no particular order:
928 Specialists
928sRUs
928 International
In the 7 years you've been a member you should have committed these suppliers to memory and speed dial by now.
928 Specialists
928sRUs
928 International
In the 7 years you've been a member you should have committed these suppliers to memory and speed dial by now.
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I did the same job a couple of years ago. I called Roger at 928sRUs and he send me an email with all of the things I should replace. I followed Dewayne's instructions and it was a piece of cake. Roger is the man for parts and advice for the "not so mechanically inclined.
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Thanks all. Yeh, I ordered from these three from time to time but not for major job like this. I think I will contact Roger, since his outfit is in Dallas, not too far from Houston. Same here, awilli6, I am a "mechanically inclined" wanna be. One of these day I will drive up to join Roger's "Breakfast Club Meeting" to exchange knowledge (taking mostly).
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You'll need a 3/4 inch drive socket/handle for the crankshaft bolt, with a pipe extension on the handle.
On disassembly, pay particular attention to the orientation of a thick washer on the tension warning "sensor" electrode. If I recall correctly, it isn't shown in the reassembly pictures Dwayne used in that writeup. It is an important piece.
Nice red S4. Good luck with the TB project.
On disassembly, pay particular attention to the orientation of a thick washer on the tension warning "sensor" electrode. If I recall correctly, it isn't shown in the reassembly pictures Dwayne used in that writeup. It is an important piece.
Nice red S4. Good luck with the TB project.
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Regarding the tensioner issue, I believe the debate surrounds the phrase "installed correctly". It's always possible to install something incorrectly, but in one case proper tension is entirely up to your adjustments, while in the other you simply (almost) pull a pin. As a rookie mechanic, the pin seemed the better choice for me. The PKT instructions were not up to Dwayne's standards, however.
I did not require a 3/4" drive for the crankshaft bolt, but it's just a matter of time until you need a set. Axle nuts!
MaxJax says not to use their lift outdoors. I wondered why since you can store them inside, then it hit me: corrosion of the bolt anchors. Promise us you'll keep them dry.
I did not require a 3/4" drive for the crankshaft bolt, but it's just a matter of time until you need a set. Axle nuts!
MaxJax says not to use their lift outdoors. I wondered why since you can store them inside, then it hit me: corrosion of the bolt anchors. Promise us you'll keep them dry.
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I'm in Houston and have a flywheel lock and TB tension tool for sale if you need them. Take your time and you should be fine. Let me know if you get stuck on anything.
I'm not seeing your email address in the Houston Google Group list. PM me if you would like an invite to join. Good way to ask questions, borrow tools, sell stuff and stay informed on any gatherings.
I'm not seeing your email address in the Houston Google Group list. PM me if you would like an invite to join. Good way to ask questions, borrow tools, sell stuff and stay informed on any gatherings.
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Thanks for the additional info on procedures, Landseer.
Btw, can anyone give a good explanation on my coolant leaking. Usually, I drove my 928 for 30 min. once a week just for fun and to recharge the battery (slow drain somewhere, need to find the source/s after the TB & WP job). Six months ago I noticed coolant leaking (pretty bad, 2-4 cups) after I parked (refilled every week before my drive). However, for the last 5 weeks, the leak stopped. If the WP seal leaked and coolant escaped thru weep hole (probably could damage WP bearings), the leak should continue. I checked coolant in the reservoir before each drive and it still full and the engine temp was/is normal during the drive. Just want to understand how the leak stopped.
- Hunt
Btw, can anyone give a good explanation on my coolant leaking. Usually, I drove my 928 for 30 min. once a week just for fun and to recharge the battery (slow drain somewhere, need to find the source/s after the TB & WP job). Six months ago I noticed coolant leaking (pretty bad, 2-4 cups) after I parked (refilled every week before my drive). However, for the last 5 weeks, the leak stopped. If the WP seal leaked and coolant escaped thru weep hole (probably could damage WP bearings), the leak should continue. I checked coolant in the reservoir before each drive and it still full and the engine temp was/is normal during the drive. Just want to understand how the leak stopped.
- Hunt
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Thanks Curt. I usually keep my MaxJax in my garage and I use garden hose washers as a seal for those anchor bolts to waterproof the holes. WD40 the plug slightly before screw in the bolt. Also, during the installation, after the drills (hardest part of the process, 1/2 a day and 6 drill bits), I vac out all dust and clean the holes and applied plenty of silicone seal (not in the instruction) before I tapped in the plugs.
Thanks Don. It's good to know there will be help closer to home. As mentioned, I am not very efficient in using the forum. I've seen the term "PM" often in this forum. I assume the "PM" is "Personal Messaging". Please educate me on how can I PM you and wonderful folks in this forum.
- Hunt
Thanks Don. It's good to know there will be help closer to home. As mentioned, I am not very efficient in using the forum. I've seen the term "PM" often in this forum. I assume the "PM" is "Personal Messaging". Please educate me on how can I PM you and wonderful folks in this forum.
- Hunt
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pprompun,
Definitely get in touch with Don Carter. He can help you avoid mistakes along the way.
Also talk to him about the Third Coast event in November.
Good Luck!!
Definitely get in touch with Don Carter. He can help you avoid mistakes along the way.
Also talk to him about the Third Coast event in November.
Good Luck!!
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This exactly why I went with the PKT. Seemed like there was less for me to mess up when rebuilding the tensioner and setting the correct tension.