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Old 07-27-2016, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain_Slow
I don't remember any challenge putting the bolts through the bushings. I may have used the nuts as a press. I can't remember....so it must have been easy To get some room above, if you can lift the engine just enough (about 2 centimeters) to get to the stock height relative to the cross brace you may have the space you need to work with the bolts. But it may not be a good idea to flex tired and cooked mounts if you plan to leave them be for awhile.
You flex them every time you use the gas pedal..

never had an issue with the bolts and bushes myself.
Old 07-27-2016, 03:14 PM
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Ok thanks guys. I've got them in. Ran through them with a 10mm drill (25/64 non metric not easy to find in UK without an online delivery). They are still a tight fit even though the holes were drilled out a little so I reckon I'm good.
Old 07-27-2016, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Crumpler
This is not sounding like plug and play anymore...
I have a Derlin set, still in the box.
Assumed they would pop in, when the time was right.
It seems I had more problems than most so may just be the mechanic. I don't think failed motor mounts helped.

Only tips I can give is make sure the insert holes on the rack are cleaned/sanded out a bit and greased when inserting the bushes. Use a long bolt and two washers and a nut to press them in, as suggested by Adrian. And then if you find you need to then drill the holes in the bushes out a little. No big deal.

I'll follow up when I get the car on the road and see if I notice any difference in the steering.

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Old 07-27-2016, 03:34 PM
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Trust me, you will notice a difference in the steering and overall handling.... one of the cheapest and best replacement of parts to date for me.
Old 07-27-2016, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ALKada
Trust me, you will notice a difference in the steering and overall handling.... one of the cheapest and best replacement of parts to date for me.
You tested this against a rack with brand new OE bushings?
Old 07-27-2016, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mike77
It seems I had more problems than most so may just be the mechanic. I don't think failed motor mounts helped.

Only tips I can give is make sure the insert holes on the rack are cleaned/sanded out a bit and greased when inserting the bushes. Use a long bolt and two washers and a nut to press them in, as suggested by Adrian. And then if you find you need to then drill the holes in the bushes out a little. No big deal.

I'll follow up when I get the car on the road and see if I notice any difference in the steering.

Cheers
Mike
Originally Posted by ALKada
Trust me, you will notice a difference in the steering and overall handling.... one of the cheapest and best replacement of parts to date for me.
Originally Posted by Imo000
You tested this against a rack with brand new OE bushings?
I don't see where I was comparing this to OE, just that he stated that he was going to see if there was a difference in replacing the bushings period from the old ones. Since I have replaced mine with Delrin, it was night and day for me in difference.
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
You flex them every time you use the gas pedal..

never had an issue with the bolts and bushes myself.
Good point, but I think I should have used "stretch" not "flex"while lifting the engine (from above...not a jack under the pan). When collapsed the mounts are essentially squished to a point they no longer rebound. I noticed zero rocking of the engine (no flex). The ones I removed I think were from the lower quality runs of the Ford mounts. They were firmly squished, showed some checking, and hard as hockey pucks.

So far the Volvo mounts are holding the motor in the same position (top of intake just slightly above top of support bar) since about a week after installation, and isolating engine vibration very well. I've had them in for almost two years.

There was a night and day difference in steering precision and accuracy after installation of the Delrin bushings. The old bushings were not completely shot, but I was doing the MMs so it was a good time to replace them. I'm sure new OEM bushings would have been a nice improvement as well. Oil had softened the original bushings.



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