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Old 10-21-2003, 05:21 PM
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So, John don't leave us hanging. Did he give you a reason why he was selling others stuff?
Old 10-21-2003, 05:23 PM
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Steve,
I bought the chips from Kuhleast. I never associated him with the Jag dealer. The guy at Kuhleast used the name Paul Miller. Clear enough? He's probably not the only person in Jersey named Paul Miller. What do you think Steve?
Old 10-21-2003, 05:41 PM
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Since you asked and in the interest of protecting the community, I pasted below what I asked and what he responded with. I don't have the reply I sent him back so that is not included. However, I own an actual set of the Repair Manuals. As such, I don't see how anyone could use the information in there to get something that is so close to 928 Specialists charts without actually having seen them before, and even then without outright downloading and modifying them.

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>From: paul miller <fab928conversion@yahoo.com>
>To: johneifert@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2438548803
>Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:47:57 -0700 (PDT)
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>remember the CD's your rennlist members made that had the 9v repair manuals? Some of them had just about every drawing and chart known to man, i will not distribute copy written material, i made these charts from info on the Cd's
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>johneifert@hotmail.com wrote:How is it your charts look nearly identical to the 928 Specialists' Relay and Fuse panel charts that have been posted on their website for years?
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Originally posted by SharkFan
So, John don't leave us hanging. Did he give you a reason why he was selling others stuff?
Old 10-21-2003, 05:51 PM
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I've traded emails with Dave Roberts on this - perhaps he'll drop in.

If you'll check that auction again, and look at the seller's feedback, you'll see Dave showing no mercy.
Old 10-21-2003, 05:55 PM
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I went there, I saw....one word....SWEEEEEEEET!

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Originally posted by Randy V
I've traded emails with Dave Roberts on this - perhaps he'll drop in.

If you'll check that auction again, and look at the seller's feedback, you'll see Dave showing no mercy.
Old 10-21-2003, 06:02 PM
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This guy is like a lab experiment gone way bad. Can't kill him he just mutates into something else maybe worse.
Sick-Em Dave!!!!!
Old 10-21-2003, 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by tresamore
I assume E-Bay could care less ...
No need to assume, you can be certain ...THEY DON'T CARE.

Frankly, I am suprised that so many people log in and participate in those Auctions to get ripped off. I personally have been stung too many times there and kicked myself each time for believing that I was actually gonna a square deal. When you put it in E-Bay's hands to fix- they tell you you should have been wiser and purchase the insurance (capitalizing on their customers grief) or, contact the the Attorney General or a long list of other law enforcement authourities that are also not interested in your $5.00 rip off.
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Old 10-21-2003, 06:36 PM
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That is Halirious !!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that he should add a few more feedbacks that look like this:

Here it is for free http://www.928gt.com/928specs/85-86relay.htm
Old 10-21-2003, 06:49 PM
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HaHaHaHaHa
Well done DR

Link to feedback TOTAL CROOK
Old 10-21-2003, 06:55 PM
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That is Halirious !!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you liked that, I get really PO'd when people try to rip off my 928 friends !! I put a lot of work into those charts to help out all 928 owners... for FREE !!

I think that he should add a few more feedbacks that look like this:
GREAT IDEA !! I plan on "buying" every one he lists from now until he gives up, gets stopped by Ebay (formal complaint has been filed), or Ebay cancels my username.

FYI, I sent an e-mail this morning asking him to stop... his reply was 2 words... "What Ever"..

Oh, and the name in his e-mail was Paul Miller.

I would appreciate anyone who has bought from this guy sending me his address for my attorney.

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Old 10-21-2003, 07:03 PM
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I also remember seeing a different guy on ebay selling ATP Riva wheels and using the picture from the Dr.'s site. Tony even confirmed that it was his car. LOL
Old 10-21-2003, 07:20 PM
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Dave,
Be careful with this guy... He may be Robert Hack or Paul Miller or ???

To my knowledge, they are both related to Motodyne so check these links where he is making friends:

1. Audi Ripoffs:
a) http://forums.audiworld.com/9080/msgs/8852.phtml
b) http://forums.audiworld.com/9080/msgs/9016.phtml

2. Death Threats:
a) http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/s-...er/007520.html
b) http://www.urs4.com/home.htm

It might be worth a call to Jimmy Pribble at www.urs4.com to see how he handled Motodyne
Old 10-22-2003, 03:13 AM
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Don't forget that the same anonymity that Hack uses can be used against him, Grasshopper...

If different folks do what Dave did, we can shut down every one of his nyms as they pop up.

Or we could have a Sharkfest on his doorstep.
Old 10-22-2003, 08:40 AM
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Nice work, Dave. At least you've killed this ID for this jerk. I've sent you a PM w his address (from when he bought a shop manual CD from me..joke was on him this time since I knew the crook was going to copy and sell it).

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