1979 Euro Project
#1
1979 Euro Project
Hey gang, I'm feeling out this 928 that I've come across as a potential project car. VIN# is 9289101906.
The tag in the door jam says production was late 1986. However I am getting contrary reports that it is a 1979 based off the VIN. There was an old insurance paper which had it as a 1979 so I'm leaning towards that year now, but that confuses me with the production date in the door jam. Maybe that's when it was brought over and converted to US emissions? I have no idea.
The car was last registered in 2004. It has been sitting in an outside lot in west Texas for the last 3 years (since 2013), and before that it was sitting in the late owner's garage, not in a running condition, for an unknown period of time.
Now that the intro is done, I am hoping y'all experts can tell me what I have here or any options that are noticeable.
Below are some pics I can gather more information as needed. Thanks in advance for the help!
The tag in the door jam says production was late 1986. However I am getting contrary reports that it is a 1979 based off the VIN. There was an old insurance paper which had it as a 1979 so I'm leaning towards that year now, but that confuses me with the production date in the door jam. Maybe that's when it was brought over and converted to US emissions? I have no idea.
The car was last registered in 2004. It has been sitting in an outside lot in west Texas for the last 3 years (since 2013), and before that it was sitting in the late owner's garage, not in a running condition, for an unknown period of time.
Now that the intro is done, I am hoping y'all experts can tell me what I have here or any options that are noticeable.
Below are some pics I can gather more information as needed. Thanks in advance for the help!
Last edited by zstreet86; 06-08-2016 at 11:28 PM.
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Looks like a fun project. Depending on your interest and your background as to wether this would be a good one for you. If you decide to accept this challenge,lol, you should get to know www.928classics.com as a resource for information and inspiration.
It looks like a 79. Curious about door jamb #
It looks like a 79. Curious about door jamb #
#5
Yeah, I'm sure it will challenge me but I am not deterred by it and am kinda of excited about it actually. It will be the first porsche I have tinkered with however.
I have been looking for a v8 project car to turn into a daily driver, and this seems like a cool car to fit the bill.
I will post up pics of the door jam tomorrow, it matches the VIN in the dash.
I have been looking for a v8 project car to turn into a daily driver, and this seems like a cool car to fit the bill.
I will post up pics of the door jam tomorrow, it matches the VIN in the dash.
#6
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Sticker on door jamb is from when it was approved as a "grey market" import.
You can tell it's a grey market because it has Euro features (turn signals on fender behind wheel, rear fog light, no rubber bumper pads) and the horrid corner markers on the back, but oddly, none in front.
It also has the VIN on a homemade tag on the dash.
Edit to add: The import approval sticker should have the name of the shop that did the import conversion.
You can tell it's a grey market because it has Euro features (turn signals on fender behind wheel, rear fog light, no rubber bumper pads) and the horrid corner markers on the back, but oddly, none in front.
It also has the VIN on a homemade tag on the dash.
Edit to add: The import approval sticker should have the name of the shop that did the import conversion.
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No sunroof cork & Pascha interior '79 Euro CIS 5-speed car with original radio, looks reasonably complete and unmolested. That car is full of potential! Having just sorted a '78 CIS car, the fuel system needs to be gone through from stem to stern, it's a bunch of work to make it right, but it's do-able.
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Buy it now. That is a keeper for sure. You have found something special.
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Trust me! STAY AWAY. Don't even go near a project like this. Step away from the Pascha and vintage Blaupunkt. Simply forward the sellers contact info to me and I will ensure no one gets their hands dirty
Seriously, looks like a nice project. Right year, right options......
Don't let the CIS scare you, plenty of good support out there for that
Good luck and keep us posted
Seriously, looks like a nice project. Right year, right options......
Don't let the CIS scare you, plenty of good support out there for that
Good luck and keep us posted
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No sunroof cork & Pascha interior '79 Euro CIS 5-speed car with original radio, looks reasonably complete and unmolested. That car is full of potential! Having just sorted a '78 CIS car, the fuel system needs to be gone through from stem to stern, it's a bunch of work to make it right, but it's do-able.
They are correct! If you don't think you want to tackle this job, there's plenty of others (Alex for one) that would scoop this up and let it sit to collect interests down the road. Looks very nice under the inch thick of dust.
Get it!
#11
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As a new owner of an '83 that ran and drove pretty well, I would advise you to be well prepared for a major overhaul with lots of time and especially money. I would not spend more than a couple thousand on this example. I do not mean to say it is not worth it but with that age and low mileage, most maintenance parts in the steering, suspension, brake, clutch, etc are likely to be original and must be replaced. And with the car sitting for more than a decade that means the engine should come out to flush out the mud that used to be coolant, replace all seals and gaskets, clean/replace fuel system, replace vacuum hoses, timing belt tensioner, water pump etc. And that is assuming it hasn't run for so long because of something simple and not some catastrophic failure.
So in summary I just want you to have realistic expectations. These cars are pretty quirky to work on with complex electrical systems as well. If you have the skills and courage I say go for it, it will be a very rewarding project in the end but it will be a long road to get there. You will be taking apart, cleaning, repairing, or replacing virtually every part of this car to get it road worthy and safe.
That said, good luck and there are tons of excellent resources to help as you go along.
So in summary I just want you to have realistic expectations. These cars are pretty quirky to work on with complex electrical systems as well. If you have the skills and courage I say go for it, it will be a very rewarding project in the end but it will be a long road to get there. You will be taking apart, cleaning, repairing, or replacing virtually every part of this car to get it road worthy and safe.
That said, good luck and there are tons of excellent resources to help as you go along.
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As a new owner of an '83 that ran and drove pretty well, I would advise you to be well prepared for a major overhaul with lots of time and especially money. I would not spend more than a couple thousand on this example. I do not mean to say it is not worth it but with that age and low mileage, most maintenance parts in the steering, suspension, brake, clutch, etc are likely to be original and must be replaced. And with the car sitting for more than a decade that means the engine should come out to flush out the mud that used to be coolant, replace all seals and gaskets, clean/replace fuel system, replace vacuum hoses, timing belt tensioner, water pump etc. And that is assuming it hasn't run for so long because of something simple and not some catastrophic failure. So in summary I just want you to have realistic expectations. These cars are pretty quirky to work on with complex electrical systems as well. If you have the skills and courage I say go for it, it will be a very rewarding project in the end but it will be a long road to get there. You will be taking apart, cleaning, repairing, or replacing virtually every part of this car to get it road worthy and safe. That said, good luck and there are tons of excellent resources to help as you go along.
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None of the features mean anything compared to VIN. They all can be changed and it will still remain what it is. When VIN is not known they are good indications what car might be but only VIN will tell for sure.
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Also, thanks to all who have posted. I appreciate all input. I've decided to pull the trigger on this car, it's a steal for the price I'm getting it.
I'm glad to see all the great support on this forum. I will keep updating this thread as things happen, but it will be a slow process.
I'm glad to see all the great support on this forum. I will keep updating this thread as things happen, but it will be a slow process.