4WD 928...Sure
10-15-2003, 03:10 AM
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4WD 928...Sure
I came across this today. If anyone wants, I'll be happy to check out the 4WD for you as the car is in my city
1991 928 4WD
This car was listed by the dealer a few months back for C$39,900.
When it snows here, which should be soon, I'll check out the 4WD in my car. After all that's what the 4 means in S4 doesn't it? If I could just find the shifter for L4, H4, and freewheel......
1991 928 4WD
This car was listed by the dealer a few months back for C$39,900.
When it snows here, which should be soon, I'll check out the 4WD in my car. After all that's what the 4 means in S4 doesn't it? If I could just find the shifter for L4, H4, and freewheel......
10-15-2003, 04:20 AM
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That must my local Nissan saleman's old car! I pulled up to the dealership one day to check out the new Zs and get this BS line from the saleman:
"Nice car. I used to have one, S4 - all wheel drive."
"Nice car. I used to have one, S4 - all wheel drive."
10-15-2003, 04:58 AM
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How much is $38k Canadian in US Dollars? Could this be a custom color, or is the picture overexposed? It looks to me as if someone had sent in her lipstick. I wish I could afford to do things like that...
We've seen quite a few all wheel drive 928s recently. I think that is because when you drive, they use all four wheels...
Life is so much better when you are clueless. Because if you don't know what you don't know, then you don't worry about all of those things. I call it the "Fry's" Syndrome - after the California electronics retailer Fry's.
Go to any of their stores, ask a sales person anything, and you will get a firm and clear answer delivered with great self confidence. The problem is, in most cases it's totally wrong. But if you don't know any better, you admire the salesperson for his knowledge, thank him, and both of you feel good. He is the one infected, but be careful, it can be contageous...
We've seen quite a few all wheel drive 928s recently. I think that is because when you drive, they use all four wheels...
Life is so much better when you are clueless. Because if you don't know what you don't know, then you don't worry about all of those things. I call it the "Fry's" Syndrome - after the California electronics retailer Fry's.
Go to any of their stores, ask a sales person anything, and you will get a firm and clear answer delivered with great self confidence. The problem is, in most cases it's totally wrong. But if you don't know any better, you admire the salesperson for his knowledge, thank him, and both of you feel good. He is the one infected, but be careful, it can be contageous...
10-15-2003, 05:40 AM
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38,000.00 CAD = 28,637.14 USD, according to these guys: http://www.xe.com/ucc/
Don't think I'd want to spend that much for lipstick pink. To each, their own.
Fry's Syndrome, lol! We've all expirienced it, and now it has a name. Don't even try to do something complex there like pay by check - their checkers are even worse
Don't think I'd want to spend that much for lipstick pink. To each, their own.
Fry's Syndrome, lol! We've all expirienced it, and now it has a name. Don't even try to do something complex there like pay by check - their checkers are even worse
10-15-2003, 03:19 PM
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Sorry to disappoint you but the car is Guards Red; the picture is just poor. I saw the car at the dealer back in June. There are very few post-1989 928s in westerna Canada, it seems. In the 10 years that I've had a 928 or suffered from 928 withdrawal, I've seen 2 1991s and 1 1990 come up for sale...and I watch religiously. I missed a 1993 two years ago but a friend bought it so I have visitation rights. I bought one of those 1991s and the other I'm thinking of buying for off-roading this winter is the one that is the subject of this post!
I'd be curious to know how many 928s were sold in Canada after 1989????
Sorry to disappoint you but the car is Guards Red; the picture is just poor. I saw the car at the dealer back in June. There are very few post-1989 928s in westerna Canada, it seems. In the 10 years that I've had a 928 or suffered from 928 withdrawal, I've seen 2 1991s and 1 1990 come up for sale...and I watch religiously. I missed a 1993 two years ago but a friend bought it so I have visitation rights. I bought one of those 1991s and the other I'm thinking of buying for off-roading this winter is the one that is the subject of this post!
I'd be curious to know how many 928s were sold in Canada after 1989????
10-15-2003, 06:49 PM
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What????? Someone actually drove the car and thinks it's all wheel drive???? I guess if a C4 911 is 4wD, why not a S4 928. You can't blame the ignorant... jseethram, please go check it out and ask them to make the front wheels turn...- Ruf
10-15-2003, 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Nicole
I call it the "Fry's" Syndrome - after the California electronics retailer Fry's.
I call it the "Fry's" Syndrome - after the California electronics retailer Fry's.
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10-15-2003, 09:08 PM
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fry's, compusa, best buy, circuit city, staples, future shop, office max, and other places like this,
they are resellers, they hire "salesmen" and "Saleswomen" keywork in job description "SALES"
they get paid by commisions to sell you ****ing idiots computers, they will tell you anything to get you to buy a computer so they get a nice fat paycheck. they will even tell you that there warranty covers physical damage WHEN IT DOESN'T. they dont tell you the makes of those computers have warranties which are better than theres as also there warranties dont have telephone support which the maker of the computer does.
and now the most important statement I can make to EVERY SINGLE 1 OF YOU, Please for gods sake dont buy a computer unless you know how to use it. or if you buy a computer take computer classes and learn how to use it, tech support is not there to teach you how to use you computer or set it up, if you have a problem, ie get an error upon opening a program.
if you dont know what the start menu button is, if you dont know what "press any Key" means, if you dont know how to open the cd rom drive and put a disc in the drive, if you dont know how to plug in the power cord, if you dont know how to "right click", then dont buy a computer! and tell others if they dont know how to do this then dont buy a computer! tell them to wait till there next life, I do tech support and some people should just wait till there next life to get 1.
also 1 other comment, if you call tech support, realize they have to listen to you, why dont you listen to them as well, instead of when they say "please right click on my computer" you just open my computer, listen to there instructions carefully!
also if you cant understand the tech on the phone ie thick accent HANG RIGHT THE **** UP, that means most likely you have reached a call center in india, and no offence but every call center I have ever spoken with over there are a bunch of MORONS when it comes to computers, and they cannot follow proccesses, and if they promise you they will call you back, dont believe them they wont, they are incompitent
they are resellers, they hire "salesmen" and "Saleswomen" keywork in job description "SALES"
they get paid by commisions to sell you ****ing idiots computers, they will tell you anything to get you to buy a computer so they get a nice fat paycheck. they will even tell you that there warranty covers physical damage WHEN IT DOESN'T. they dont tell you the makes of those computers have warranties which are better than theres as also there warranties dont have telephone support which the maker of the computer does.
and now the most important statement I can make to EVERY SINGLE 1 OF YOU, Please for gods sake dont buy a computer unless you know how to use it. or if you buy a computer take computer classes and learn how to use it, tech support is not there to teach you how to use you computer or set it up, if you have a problem, ie get an error upon opening a program.
if you dont know what the start menu button is, if you dont know what "press any Key" means, if you dont know how to open the cd rom drive and put a disc in the drive, if you dont know how to plug in the power cord, if you dont know how to "right click", then dont buy a computer! and tell others if they dont know how to do this then dont buy a computer! tell them to wait till there next life, I do tech support and some people should just wait till there next life to get 1.
also 1 other comment, if you call tech support, realize they have to listen to you, why dont you listen to them as well, instead of when they say "please right click on my computer" you just open my computer, listen to there instructions carefully!
also if you cant understand the tech on the phone ie thick accent HANG RIGHT THE **** UP, that means most likely you have reached a call center in india, and no offence but every call center I have ever spoken with over there are a bunch of MORONS when it comes to computers, and they cannot follow proccesses, and if they promise you they will call you back, dont believe them they wont, they are incompitent
10-16-2003, 12:05 PM
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I hate to break this to you but its a known fact in the sales world. Enthusiasts of any kinds, computer, electronics, cars etc..make the WORST sales people of whatever it is they are enthusiasts of.
Why? They know too much. The "average" person is at a store looking at an item with intent to buy. They know very little about that item. They need to be told just enough to make them feel comfortable about making the purchase. The rule of thumb is sales is don't stop until you have 3 "no's" Why? Its human nature to say no when asked to buy something.
Car salesman know if they don't close the deal within 24 hours of first contact, you were not a serious buyer to begin with. Reason why they want your info so they can call you the next day or sooner.
Computer sales people are not tech people. The computer tech people are the ones in the back fixing them. Or at Dell designing them. Very few people can do both well. Give these people a break. The people at Comp USA don't make very much money selling you a PC. How much do you expect them to know? I have been a PC tech for the better part of 10 years. I tried getting into PC sales, I was terrible. Why? It took less than 3 seconds and I was way over the customers head. It worse telling the customer too much info vs not enough.
Its an old phrase:
Buyer Beware.
Another rule of thumb. Warranties are worthless. PERIOD. Warranties were originally to cover manufacturer defects. What does this mean? It protects the consumer from a lemon, nothing more. Sh*t breaks, that is a way of life. You have a Porsche for Christ sake you know this. If you expect a warranty to cover anything above and beyond a building defect or human error when it was assembled, your expecting too much. If you want a product to last longer, buy a better one. You get what you paid for.
You want to be more educated about your purchase? Do some research. Don't blame the guy trying to put food on his family's table just because you were to lazy to find out the answer for yourself. You obviously have access to the Internet.
Sorry for the rant. Ever since Sam Walton convinced us that the customer was alway right, retail has gone straight downhill. Why? The customer is never right, if they were always right we wouldn't need sales people or tech support, would we?
I hate to break this to you but its a known fact in the sales world. Enthusiasts of any kinds, computer, electronics, cars etc..make the WORST sales people of whatever it is they are enthusiasts of.
Why? They know too much. The "average" person is at a store looking at an item with intent to buy. They know very little about that item. They need to be told just enough to make them feel comfortable about making the purchase. The rule of thumb is sales is don't stop until you have 3 "no's" Why? Its human nature to say no when asked to buy something.
Car salesman know if they don't close the deal within 24 hours of first contact, you were not a serious buyer to begin with. Reason why they want your info so they can call you the next day or sooner.
Computer sales people are not tech people. The computer tech people are the ones in the back fixing them. Or at Dell designing them. Very few people can do both well. Give these people a break. The people at Comp USA don't make very much money selling you a PC. How much do you expect them to know? I have been a PC tech for the better part of 10 years. I tried getting into PC sales, I was terrible. Why? It took less than 3 seconds and I was way over the customers head. It worse telling the customer too much info vs not enough.
Its an old phrase:
Buyer Beware.
Another rule of thumb. Warranties are worthless. PERIOD. Warranties were originally to cover manufacturer defects. What does this mean? It protects the consumer from a lemon, nothing more. Sh*t breaks, that is a way of life. You have a Porsche for Christ sake you know this. If you expect a warranty to cover anything above and beyond a building defect or human error when it was assembled, your expecting too much. If you want a product to last longer, buy a better one. You get what you paid for.
You want to be more educated about your purchase? Do some research. Don't blame the guy trying to put food on his family's table just because you were to lazy to find out the answer for yourself. You obviously have access to the Internet.
Sorry for the rant. Ever since Sam Walton convinced us that the customer was alway right, retail has gone straight downhill. Why? The customer is never right, if they were always right we wouldn't need sales people or tech support, would we?
10-16-2003, 08:27 PM
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carrying this further OT...
You gotta respect anyone who has the patience to work tech support. I work in a library and the first thing we're taught is that most of the time, the person asking you a question really has no idea what they're asking, so you sort of have to back them off and "build" their question back up.
I've also trained myself to ask simple questions in stores, such as "where are your networking supplies?" or "where are first aid kits?" And, "No, no, I already know the piece of equipment I'm looking for, I just want to know where it is."
Lizard, ever seen this site?
The Chronicles of George
And anyone else who works tech support might get a kick out of it.
I've also trained myself to ask simple questions in stores, such as "where are your networking supplies?" or "where are first aid kits?" And, "No, no, I already know the piece of equipment I'm looking for, I just want to know where it is."
Lizard, ever seen this site?
The Chronicles of George
And anyone else who works tech support might get a kick out of it.