New Guy looking at '84 928S
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New Guy looking at '84 928S
Looking at a white 1984 928S, second owner, all original except for tires. 38,000 miles. Timing belt, etc have not been changed. What's a reasonable price?
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That $13k is probably a good price, but that's only the beginning. A decent 928 - reliable and safe - will cost $20-25k regardless of the starting point. If you go into the transaction understanding that you will need $5-10k more, you'll come out of the process with one of the world's most satisfying cars.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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I've been researching these cars for a few years now off and on and hope to find the right one pretty soon. Not sure how familiar you are with them, but if you are not very familiar I suggest you get as informed as you can as quickly as possible before pulling the trigger on this one. $13K can be a very fair price if the car is completely sorted. Or it can be just the tip of the iceberg. I reviewed a PPI on a car I was interested in a few moths ago. Price seemed reasonable, but the PPI revealed about another $8-$12K that needed to be done to the car. I walked.
You are on the right forum. The folks here can help you with what you need to know, but I suggest searching the threads first as there is a 95% chance its been covered before.
Good luck!
You are on the right forum. The folks here can help you with what you need to know, but I suggest searching the threads first as there is a 95% chance its been covered before.
Good luck!
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If the paint is original and nice and interior is pretty good the mechanicals at 38,000 should be pretty good.....13k is pretty fair in todays market . Sure it is twice what it was "worth" 4 years ago but Porsche Mania is still going strong
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Well, let's see:
When was it last run?
38k is low, has it been driven regularly, has it sat for a while, did it sit for a while sometime in the past?
Is 38k correct? The odo gear falls apart after a while. There are other clues to mileage (pedal wear, window switch wear seat wear), but without good documentation, any odo reading is suspect.
What kind of condition?
Paint & body?
Interior?
Engine?
Rest of the mechanical stuff (trans, brakes, suspension, steering)?
What kind of service records?
$13k could be a bargain, or it could be way, way over priced. Without good answers to the above (a good PPI is a must), and some pics, any valuation is simply a guess.
When was it last run?
38k is low, has it been driven regularly, has it sat for a while, did it sit for a while sometime in the past?
Is 38k correct? The odo gear falls apart after a while. There are other clues to mileage (pedal wear, window switch wear seat wear), but without good documentation, any odo reading is suspect.
What kind of condition?
Paint & body?
Interior?
Engine?
Rest of the mechanical stuff (trans, brakes, suspension, steering)?
What kind of service records?
$13k could be a bargain, or it could be way, way over priced. Without good answers to the above (a good PPI is a must), and some pics, any valuation is simply a guess.
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Two owners. The car has been driven about 2-3000 miles per year. Owner says the odd works. Power antenna and passenger door are finicky--likely bad switches. The paint is original and good--needs a good polishing. Dash and seats look great except for a small tear on driver's piping. Owners has service records going back to 2003, when he bought the car. Original toolkit, spare (never touched pavement,) and air pump are there.
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If it is a 5 speed that adds quite a bit of "value" but the car has a good story and verifiable odometer reading. If you like the color and equipment it should be a good fun weekend sunny day car.... and the 80-84 USA cars are pretty simple and do NOT bend valves if the T-belt has an issue.
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If you could post a couple pictures, that would help. To be honest, "Timing belt, etc have not been changed" could be kind of troubling. It would make me wonder if you're heading into the deep end of deferred maintenance.
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that it is an automatic. I didn't take any photos. I don't have the time or skills to take on the work myself. I've gotten 1 quote, so far, for timing belt, pulleys, tensioners, etc., water pump, hoses, coolant at around "ballparked" $4K.
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First, try to verify with records if its a true 38K miles. Like others have posted, the VDO plastic odometer wheels notoriously strip. There is no shortage of "low mileage" 928s out there.
If the timing belt service rally has never been done, $4K is a bit high but probably not too far off if you are including water pump, belts, hoses (assuming that's a Porsche OEM water pump) which is almost $1000 alone.
The main thing will be to get a good PPI as others have referenced. There is a very good PPI checklist posted by one of the members on this thread. It's specifically for later model one, but most of it is applicable.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ml#post6975867
Whether or not the price is right will depend on how much $$ it will take to bring the car up to snuff.
Lastly, it is really hard to recommend a 928 to anyone who says they don't have the time to work on them themselves. They are not difficult cars to learn but it does seem like repairs are very time consuming when compared to similar jobs on other 80s era cars. Everything from timing belt service, shocks, engine mounts, you name it. The only really easy thing I've ever done is swapping the thermostat. So you pay quite a bit more in labor than you may be expecting.
You will find no better community of guys who will try to help, but if you are the type of buyer inclined to take a car into a shop for most things you can really rack up some $$. That's why there are so many basket case 928s out there. Just have both eyes wide open.
If the timing belt service rally has never been done, $4K is a bit high but probably not too far off if you are including water pump, belts, hoses (assuming that's a Porsche OEM water pump) which is almost $1000 alone.
The main thing will be to get a good PPI as others have referenced. There is a very good PPI checklist posted by one of the members on this thread. It's specifically for later model one, but most of it is applicable.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ml#post6975867
Whether or not the price is right will depend on how much $$ it will take to bring the car up to snuff.
Lastly, it is really hard to recommend a 928 to anyone who says they don't have the time to work on them themselves. They are not difficult cars to learn but it does seem like repairs are very time consuming when compared to similar jobs on other 80s era cars. Everything from timing belt service, shocks, engine mounts, you name it. The only really easy thing I've ever done is swapping the thermostat. So you pay quite a bit more in labor than you may be expecting.
You will find no better community of guys who will try to help, but if you are the type of buyer inclined to take a car into a shop for most things you can really rack up some $$. That's why there are so many basket case 928s out there. Just have both eyes wide open.
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Oh, I totally get it. I would not have tackled the t-belt service as my first project either. Just don't hesitate to learn the car and reach out for information. Good luck!