Garment Steamers for Degreasing Undercarriage
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I'm baffled how WD40 could work. That is..intriguing.
Regarding that "every major area should have a steam cleaner place" (OK not exactly a quote) I've tried to find something like that here in South Florida, with no success. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but I've had no luck. They're doing a crappy job of advertising themselves, if they're here!
Regarding that "every major area should have a steam cleaner place" (OK not exactly a quote) I've tried to find something like that here in South Florida, with no success. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but I've had no luck. They're doing a crappy job of advertising themselves, if they're here!
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I'm baffled how WD40 could work. That is..intriguing.
Regarding that "every major area should have a steam cleaner place" (OK not exactly a quote) I've tried to find something like that here in South Florida, with no success. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but I've had no luck. They're doing a crappy job of advertising themselves, if they're here!
Regarding that "every major area should have a steam cleaner place" (OK not exactly a quote) I've tried to find something like that here in South Florida, with no success. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but I've had no luck. They're doing a crappy job of advertising themselves, if they're here!
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I used to think WD40 attracted dirt and grime. Looking at the engine compartment at some of the zinc plated items I used WD40 on to clean up, I don't see much dirt on them, which disproves the theory it attracts dirt.
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As mentioned, a pressure washer shooting a mixture of Simple Green/hot water will be your best bet.
Place a plastic tarp under the car to prevent runoff into the storm drain system.
Place a plastic tarp under the car to prevent runoff into the storm drain system.
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You'd like to have somewhere around 100k BTU heating capacity to do anything more than spot cleaning under the car. The ones that are small enough to plug into a common outlet are way too small for anything serious. I'd be more tempted to fit a 50 PSIG pressure relief valve to an old gas water heater and let her rip. With insulated hoses and gun, or course. Or maybe not.
Grease and animal fat dissolve nicely by around 140-150ºF, which isn't too far from what a good home water heater can deliver if asked. You want the outlet temp above that since you need to heat the substrate metal enough to let go of whatever you are removing. The 150-160º or so limit on home water heaters is there so it doesn't accidentally melt away any of the fat on the user. Still does a pretty decent job of cleaning, but you can't use a regular garden hose for those temps.
Grease and animal fat dissolve nicely by around 140-150ºF, which isn't too far from what a good home water heater can deliver if asked. You want the outlet temp above that since you need to heat the substrate metal enough to let go of whatever you are removing. The 150-160º or so limit on home water heaters is there so it doesn't accidentally melt away any of the fat on the user. Still does a pretty decent job of cleaning, but you can't use a regular garden hose for those temps.
So 240 should be fine.
Ok, 150.
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250 PSI means over 400º steam temp, something that's way pas what a home user might consider playing with.
I was thinking that 35 PSI water supply pressure from the house, no check valve, and see no more than about 300º, and certainly less as soon as it starts flowing cold water into the tank. It would be hot water to the nozzle, flash to steam in the way to the car. Mostly a serious hot water wash with some steam.
Disclaimer: Don't try this at home, completely untrained 'professionals' working far enough away from you to make it a non-dangerous freak event rather than an awesome spectacle.
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I put a mixing valve setup in my new garage, so I can rip 160º hot water at will, maybe through a small pressure washer. Haven't even tried it yet.
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I know that Simple Green is touted as a great cleaner and I have to disagree unless you are using this version
If you are using the crap you get at Home Depot, be sure to wash it off immediately as it will etch a lot of the softer aluminum we have on our cars. I prefer to use Formula 88 which looks like this.
Best stuff that I've used over the counter when you are not using a real steam cleaner.
If you are using the crap you get at Home Depot, be sure to wash it off immediately as it will etch a lot of the softer aluminum we have on our cars. I prefer to use Formula 88 which looks like this.
Best stuff that I've used over the counter when you are not using a real steam cleaner.
#27
Simple Green (purple HD at Home Depot) works great for first round, then I use Mineral Spirits as it won't harm the painted stuff. Break Cleaner on the really tuff metal parts.
Never tried steam, however there are some detail shops that will do your under carriage on a lift too.
Never tried steam, however there are some detail shops that will do your under carriage on a lift too.
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Steel bristle brushes seemed to have worked really well so far on my control arms followed by a spritz of Simple Green, and lastly WD-40. I'm going to update my steering rack thread to show those results.
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WD-40 is a light oil carried by a solvent. It makes an OK 'cleaner' because of the solvent part, but only because it comes in the spray can. There are better solvents-in-a-spray-can, and even better solvents without the spray can. You can do as well using solvents in a spray bottle, provided the spray bottle will stand up to the solvents. Andy, I think you can find a gallon of industrial paint thinner at H-D stores, intended to cut some particular paints. Cali has very particular rules about using it, to the point where the label tells you specifically that it is only to be used to thin those paints, and not to use it for anything else like cleaning/degreasing. Go grab some and a six-pack of industrial spray bottles and go to town. Wear protective gear like a respirator for organic compounds, serious rubber gloves, and chemical goggles. It's way cheaper and much more effective than WD-40 or even brake-clean. It's a little more persistent (higher boiling point) than consumer brake-clean, leaves no oily film as WD-40 does. The fumes and overspray are very unhealthy, extremely flammable, etc, so only use it outside away from structures and ignition sources too.
Or the odorlesss paint thinner in a bucket with a stiff-bristle parts cleaning brush.
Or the odorlesss paint thinner in a bucket with a stiff-bristle parts cleaning brush.
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I can't do the paint thinner cleaning with a child in the home that follows my wife into the garage and wherever she goes. I will stick to Simple Green and elbow grease.