The 100k mile dilemma. 97k now, stop driving and preserve the mileage?
#46
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drive it...life is too short. enjoy your passion. sounds like you have worked hard to get her in great shape and now you are going to sell it? will you even get all your money back? you have done the hard part now go out and enjoy it.
your friends probably know you as the Porsche or 928 guy and now you won;t even drive it much? show them what Porsche's were made for.
your friends probably know you as the Porsche or 928 guy and now you won;t even drive it much? show them what Porsche's were made for.
#47
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Guys, I don't think there's any way to write this without being a jerk, so I'll just cop to that. I've driven fast cars, faster than the 928. I have other cars right now that are just as fun to drive as the 928. I also have another 928 if I want to drive one(once completely fixed).
I have this 928 because I bought it for a song, and I'm going through my usual process to save it and put it back in the community. Yes, I will get my money back on it, but not for that reason am I restricting my driving.
In case anyone missed the several references to it, I'm doing this strictly for the theoretical, or philosophical attachment that others(not YOU, don't take it personally) view with a +100k mile car. Some/many websites have a limitation section for mileage, some have a pull down menu on mileage, and a common, although I admit purely arbitrary limit of 100k seems to come up quite often.
Will it make the car more valuable? Maybe slightly. Will it enlarge the purchase audience? Quite possibly. Will it cost me anything that I can't get from another car? No. In fact, I'm already shopping for another car, and maybe I want to drive that one more. As another has mentioned, I can go up to Denton and pick one of a dozen 928s to drive for a few weeks with the blessing of my good ole boy.
So - in closing, I like driving 928s. But if I'm looking for a thrill I can also go down to the local airport and hop in the plane for a fun little flight around TX, NM, CO, LA, KS, OK, etc. Prolly not as comfy, but surely a fun time to motor around in my own plane.
Thanks for your recommendations, but I've made up my mind.
I have this 928 because I bought it for a song, and I'm going through my usual process to save it and put it back in the community. Yes, I will get my money back on it, but not for that reason am I restricting my driving.
In case anyone missed the several references to it, I'm doing this strictly for the theoretical, or philosophical attachment that others(not YOU, don't take it personally) view with a +100k mile car. Some/many websites have a limitation section for mileage, some have a pull down menu on mileage, and a common, although I admit purely arbitrary limit of 100k seems to come up quite often.
Will it make the car more valuable? Maybe slightly. Will it enlarge the purchase audience? Quite possibly. Will it cost me anything that I can't get from another car? No. In fact, I'm already shopping for another car, and maybe I want to drive that one more. As another has mentioned, I can go up to Denton and pick one of a dozen 928s to drive for a few weeks with the blessing of my good ole boy.
So - in closing, I like driving 928s. But if I'm looking for a thrill I can also go down to the local airport and hop in the plane for a fun little flight around TX, NM, CO, LA, KS, OK, etc. Prolly not as comfy, but surely a fun time to motor around in my own plane.
Thanks for your recommendations, but I've made up my mind.
#48
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Cool. It's your car. It's your decision.
You asked for advice. Typically, you got a lot of conflicting opinions. And a few "You are an idiot if you..." (also conflicting - so you're an idiot no matter which way you go )
You've clearly thought it through and made the best decision for you. That's what matters, right?
Edit to add: And you can go borrow one of Roger's at the drop of a hat - you really suck,
You asked for advice. Typically, you got a lot of conflicting opinions. And a few "You are an idiot if you..." (also conflicting - so you're an idiot no matter which way you go )
You've clearly thought it through and made the best decision for you. That's what matters, right?
Edit to add: And you can go borrow one of Roger's at the drop of a hat - you really suck,
#49
These cars were meant to be driven.
Do you get as big a smile on your face driving a toyota?
I've got a scion xb as my dd. It doesn't give me nearly the smile as my 86.5.
Do you get as big a smile on your face driving a toyota?
I've got a scion xb as my dd. It doesn't give me nearly the smile as my 86.5.
#50
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Doc, it's your car. Do you need the money?
If it's in nice condition and you want to sell it and you have some years of life left (or sophisticated/knowledgeable heirs) and storage space (like a hangar), put it up on stands and away for the next ten years or more - maybe even in a nitrogen capsule. With a print out of every thread on it.
Let it be a barn find for some future fanatic and a windfall for you or your heirs.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
If it's in nice condition and you want to sell it and you have some years of life left (or sophisticated/knowledgeable heirs) and storage space (like a hangar), put it up on stands and away for the next ten years or more - maybe even in a nitrogen capsule. With a print out of every thread on it.
Let it be a barn find for some future fanatic and a windfall for you or your heirs.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Doc, it's your car. Do you need the money?
If it's in nice condition and you want to sell it and you have some years of life left (or sophisticated/knowledgeable heirs) and storage space (like a hangar), put it up on stands and away for the next ten years or more - maybe even in a nitrogen capsule. With a print out of every thread on it.
Let it be a barn find for some future fanatic and a windfall for you or your heirs.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
If it's in nice condition and you want to sell it and you have some years of life left (or sophisticated/knowledgeable heirs) and storage space (like a hangar), put it up on stands and away for the next ten years or more - maybe even in a nitrogen capsule. With a print out of every thread on it.
Let it be a barn find for some future fanatic and a windfall for you or your heirs.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
#52
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Since your aren't driving your cars, then it stands to reason that they are not breaking and therefore do not need to be worked on. And since you aren't working on your cars, you could stop by my place, have a few beers, and tell me why I have power to my freeze switch and have no power whatever to the connection at the pressure switch and/or the AC compressor.
At your leisure, of course
At your leisure, of course
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Since your aren't driving your cars, then it stands to reason that they are not breaking and therefore do not need to be worked on. And since you aren't working on your cars, you could stop by my place, have a few beers, and tell me why I have power to my freeze switch and have no power whatever to the connection at the pressure switch and/or the AC compressor.
At your leisure, of course
At your leisure, of course
#55
Doc, I'm the guy on the other side.
I've bought two 928's with both over 100K miles. The last one arrived this week. I bought each based on the condition and the documentation of prior service done by the previous owners. We bought them to enjoy them and drive them regularly. The 100K mileage to me is just a starting point
I've bought two 928's with both over 100K miles. The last one arrived this week. I bought each based on the condition and the documentation of prior service done by the previous owners. We bought them to enjoy them and drive them regularly. The 100K mileage to me is just a starting point
#56
I had this same question about my 78 #209 it had 36,600 miles when I bought it 2 months ago. It now has 37,300. do the same rules apply to this car? or does the low mileage actually mean something if it is this low?
#57
Burning Brakes
100K used to mean a lot more a decade or two ago when most cars would not make it much beyond 100K. In terms of the 928 world, 100K means absolutely nothing. Perception of a 100K barrier would only mean something to someone not versed in 928s, since these cars are more than capable of exceeding 2-5 times that figure with proper maintenance.
I say drive it.
I say drive it.
#58
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Dave, you are past the really low, and most valuable mileage cut-off, but you are still quite low and in the next tier of well preserved low mile cars. I'd say you should put some miles on it, but watch the odo, and don't put too many more on it. Keep it below 50. Fix that other one you bought and drive the snot out of it, but bring this nice red one to Frenzy and the special shows! (like next year's PVGP here in Pittsburgh - not far from where you are, only a few hours drive).
#59
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Hi Doc, if you were to drive the car, how many miles a year would you traditionally add to the odo? If less than 5K, I say drive it. As you state the selling value is not a great concern of yours, seems more like hitting the arbitrary 100k miileage limit in some of the online for sale websites. When the time comes to sell it, just list it as having 99,000 miles on the odo. In the first sentence of the description of the car clearly indicate in caps - "ACTUAL MILEAGE IS xxx,xxx MILES. SILLY WEBSITE HAS A 100,000 MILE LIMIT". Discerning buyers will understand.
I would drive the car without worrying about some arbitrary administrative issue like a 100k mileage limit. That's me. On the other hand I've been beyond stupid in the over investment of time, resources and money, when it comes to these cars, so my advice has a value substantially less than .02 cents.
I would drive the car without worrying about some arbitrary administrative issue like a 100k mileage limit. That's me. On the other hand I've been beyond stupid in the over investment of time, resources and money, when it comes to these cars, so my advice has a value substantially less than .02 cents.
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What do you suppose is the actual difference in selling price between a car with 97K and 103K miles? On a nominal $18K car, I'd guess about $1000. Over 2.5 years, about $35/month. That isn't much when you compare the two cases, one where you don't enjoy the car very much, and one where you do.
The prospect of buying another one and fixing it up doesn't appeal to me. If it does to you, well, that's different: hours of fun, and the satisfaction of saving another 928 from decline.
The prospect of buying another one and fixing it up doesn't appeal to me. If it does to you, well, that's different: hours of fun, and the satisfaction of saving another 928 from decline.