Dave928S

^^^ I'm not all that taken with the appearance. It hasn't got the nice flowing lines of the 928, and seems 'pushed down' in the centre, with a side window that seems tiny, and wheel wells that are blown up and not flowing well with the lines of the rest of the car.

I had a look at a Vantage recently and IMO they've nailed it, with appearance and lines reminiscent of a 928.

safulop

The source above suggested a "mid or rear-mounted flat-8." Well that would sure be interesting but it is nothing like a 928.

Isn't it true that the cabin configuration of our beloved sharks is no longer legal? I mean, those dinky rear seats? You can't have that mixed hatchback configuration anymore right? What the USA makers used to call the "2+2" seating configuration is a thing of the past.

DeWolf

Porsche could build a car on the Audi R8 platform.

tv

I have to disagree slightly, the vantage is way too small on the inside and not sleek enough on the outside, despite the added cylinders it is the new Vanquish that is closet in spirit to the 928. BUT check this video out @3:00 minute mark. This prototype Bentley is more like a new 928, the 3/4 rear view looks just like the best rendering of a new 928 from about 7 years ago.

freeze it @4:57 --

docmirror

There's something jogging my memory about why the flat 8 doesn't work well at higher RPM. Some kind of vibration that is hard to get nulled out, but it's been a long time since I heard about it, I can't recall the details.

Lycoming successfully built a flat air air cooled aircraft engine, but they didn't build many of them. It was a double row, flat four 320 Cu In on a common crank. The engine is redlined at 2800 RPM, and I think once it gets above 3100 or so, bad things start to happen with the crank throws.

Of course Ferrari makes a flat plane boxer 12 and it's quite successful, but seems the flat 10 has vibration that is very hard to overcome. Of course, the R8 and Gallardo use the V10, as well as does Ford in the truck and I think the older GT. V10 would work, maybe not flat 10.

Maybe Porsche is on a kick like Ford, Dodge, and Chevy bringing back their nostalgic rear-drive icons from the 60s into a modern gen. No one can doubt the financial success of the big 3 with their retro bring forward platforms(started by Ford with the retro Mustang). Sales of the Dodge Challenger have been very strong and you can't throw a dead cat without seeing one these days.

Wondering if Porsche sees a lot of that sales volume hitting the big 3 and see if they can cash in on it. However, at this point they are a day late(more like 5 years late), and the 928 - despite Risky Business was never quite as iconic as the Mustang or the Challenger/Charger.

From a market standpoint, they also might be eating their own young by bringing in a new 2 door GT. While the buyer of a Challenger prolly doesn't take away anything from a Dodge truck buyer, or someone interested in the new Neon, if you go into a Porsche showroom you aren't looking for a truck or econ car. So, buyers would choose from either the latest version of the 911, or the newer 928. Market stratification, and really - is there a big clamor for a new Euro GT coupe out there?

jpitman2

Seen in Paris over the last few days - a couple of the MB coupes with rear ends very like an S4 - wife was sure it was a 928...at least from the rear.

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kevinr

Not to mention EU pedestrian safety regs -- which has lead to some seriously compromised designs. There's only so much a designer can do to hide a blunt nose and a high hood line.

I think a Panamera front end is as close as you can get to a 928 and still meet modern requirements (for a front engine car). Of course, some of the details could be finessed to evoke a 928 -- but the front end proportions would still be a more Panamera then 928.

As one of the other posters suggested, the hypothetical future 928 designer would have more regulatory freedom at the back.

blau928

Porsche will have a new 928 contender with the platform shared with the new Bentley EXP Speed 6. It can use V8 and W12 engines.. Porsche may use it with the TT V8 from the Panamera.. The car is about the size of an Aston DB9 or Jag XK from the reports from Geneva.

hacker-pschorr

Car & Driver is claiming Porsche has already roughly confirmed a mid-engine flat 8:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...8-988-a-2.html

The recent "shake-up" in Porsche management and the restructuring of VAG has given Porsche much more freedom than they had previously while lumped in with Audi. They are now a separate branch with Bugatti and Bentley.

A shared platform with a Bentley sure makes sense, except Porsche is hinting at keeping the new car closer to their heritage / identity with the mid-engine platform.

In an ironic twist, a mid-engine flat 8 powered GT would be more in the spirit of the 928 as it could probably be a whole new clean sheet design. Unless they borrow the R8 platform.

blau928

I heard about the restructure and Piech losing the board battle.

Flat 8 is a cool idea, and I can only imagine what a flat 12 would look like with two turbos...

Mongo

Nevertheless, I am disappointed at Porsche for not putting a proper GT car out in the current market of GT cars i.e. AMG GT and Ferrari F12.

Instead they are turbocharging all 911s, killing the all time famous 911 Turbo.

Porsche died with me after 997 GT2 RS.

James Bailey

Both my 2002 and 2007 Passats are turbocharged 5 and 6 speeds but interesting thing is neither one has any badging to say TURBO. Which really says it is not worth mentioning anymore it is becoming the norm .... Rumor is the Boxster is getting a 4 cylinder turbo very soon possibly "entry level" 911s as well.

blau928

The Ferrari F12 is in an entirely different league to a GT2, AMG GT etc. Until you have driven one, the magazine articles are just reading material... (I have taken an F12 in excess of 200mph and it is amazing)

The turbocharging is for regulatory reasons about environmental concerns. The turbos are more efficient.

Mongo

Closest Italian GT car I have driven is a 550 Maranello. I still shudder hearing the V12 in front of me wind and push me backward.

FiveElements

Have you noticed how the new AMG GTs looks just like a 928?


http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicl.../bodystyle-CPE