Rob Edwards

Of all the 928s for sale right now this has to be the best balance of condition, desirability/collectibility, and price that exists. I don't understand why this hasn't been snapped up. If I had the room I'd buy it, give it the Cobalt treatment, and flip it.

Ninespub

Hey Rob. What is the "Cobalt Treatment"?

Rob Edwards

That's where you buy a nice GT, do all the midlife-crisis maintenance, plus a sympathetic cosmetic refreshing:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...t-project.html

Maybe I can convince Anderson to buy this one too...

JWise

Looks like it was previously owned by a 928 enthusiast. Not far off from show car material. Surprised it's still available.

Ninespub

Ah, yes. I recall that thread and understand the relationship now.

Tomkat80222

Well I have been seriously looking at this and had a PPI done today. The good is the interior is good shape and engine runs wells. There are a few bad things. The biggest is that it was repainted and the job according to ProTech, was not up to Porsche standard with some quality problems. I don't understand since the paint job was probably done in 1993 when the car was in a minor accident and still had a high value. The clutch needs replacement. Wow, an almost 3K job. The cam seals and valve covers are leaking. The timing belt tensioner is no good and the belt is almost 10 years old, so a full timing belt job. The instrument panel has cracks and a few other minor problems. I really want to like the car, but I don't think the dealer is going to be willing to lower the price enough. The paint and the clutch are the real surprises. What would others be willing to pay for one in this condition? Also, can anyone verify these are club sport rims. Here is the web site with new pictures.
http://www.maseratilotusgreenville.c...0480dc2e3d.htm

Thanks for everyone's help.

JWise

Definitely Club Sport wheels - just make sure the fronts are the 8" width specified for the 89GT.

depstein15

Sounds like it's a bit of a mess, offer 15k max and wait for dealer to eventually call you back. They know the high mileage seriously diminishes its value to collectors so buy and enjoy as a driver, and not an appreciating investment. I bet the dealer caves, be patient.

bureau13

Everyone says clutches on these cars area relatively easy*. Yeah, the parts cost some $$ but it's not supposed to be a tough job. And timing belt...well they all need it at some point. Again, not a huge deal IMO. The paint is a bit more of an issue perhaps, but unless they've managed to hide the imperfections incredibly well in those photos, I'd at least be making them a serious offer, were I in the market for a car at that price.

*I have not myself done a clutch, so of course your mileage may vary...

Wisconsin Joe

As long as the pilot shaft (short shaft, intermediate shaft) isn't stuck in the pilot bearing, the clutch job is fairly simple and straightforward. No need to pull the engine or drop the trans. Just don't drop the clutch pack on your head (that is not a joke).

Depending on what needs to be replaced, it can be fairly reasonable to fairly expensive.

Friction discs are around $550 for the pair, Throw out bearing is $150. If you need the intermediate plate, that isn't cheap. A replacement short shaft is available, I think it's about $300. So it kind of depends on what is needed.
A basic "Wear parts" replacement is less than $1000 for the parts. But if other stuff needs to be replaced, it can get spendy fast.

JWise

The underlying links lead to some seriously large hi-resolution photos. Click on the image in the little slideshow and it will become the main image. Once that image is selected, put your cursor over the image and right click -> View Image. The large photo version will load (Do NOT click on that little magnifying glass - it does not pull up the original full size photo). For example, here's the one of the club sports:

Tomkat80222

Jarrod thanks for the photo help. They know the paint is not right. They used the oldest trick in the book and took the pictures while the car was wet. Since I'm not **** enough and like to enjoy my rides, the paint may not be too big an issue. But it sure lowers the value. I like the hard ball negotiating idea.

jetson8859

Contacted the dealer and here is their information. Take it for what is as I know Tomkat had a PPI done.

Kevin,

Here's what we have done on the Porsche:

used car inspection
replaced damaged leather on driver's seat bolster (outsourced)
new battery
replaced all fluids--brake, transmission, power steering, rear diff, coolant.
adjusted parking brake cable
repaired sunroof power motor

Here's what the prior owner had recently done:

replaced LR wheel bearing and drive axle at 87K miles
at 85K miles, replaced water pump, timing belt, and tension rollers; repaired/replaced a bunch of things to correct an oil leak (crank case breather hoses, intake hoses, vacuum unit, vacuum line fittings, knock sensor connectors, and oil filler spouts); flushed brake and clutch fluids.
replaced shifter couplings at 79K miles
replaced clutch pressure plate and flywheel assembly at 78K miles

Some Devil

I may have dodged a bullet on this one. I live in Spartanburg, SC (roughly thirty minutes from Greenville) and saw this car on AutoTrader back in July. I test drove it, researched values on Haggerty, reviewed the service records they had available there at the Maserati Dealership, and discussed the car with the mechanic at ProTech Motorsports who had looked it over.

When I test drove the car the air conditioner wasn't cooling adequately if at all. The ProTech guys reviewed all of the cars other issues and left me with the conclusion that it would require over $5k in work to make it a reliable weekend driver, not including whatever it would take to fix the AC. I made an offer taking these costs into account but requiring that they first recharge the AC so that I would know whether to anticipate major costs there as well. They initially insisted that they would not sell a car with a non-functioning air conditioner and would fix it prior to the sale, but wanted a commitment from me to buy the car for more than their asking price before they would make the repairs. For obvious reasons I refused. They then called back a couple of days later offering to fix the AC and sell the car to me for the amount that I had offered. I verbally agreed to the sale by phone, only to have them back out the following day when a couple from Florida wanted to drive up to see the car. They later informed me that they had sold the car to the couple from Florida but had done me a favor because it lost oil pressure and broke down before they could even drive it to Florida.

I'd love to know what happened from there if anyone has an update. There's no further info on the car on the registry at 928oc.org.

I ended up buying a '91 GT with about 10k fewer miles which, while in better condition, cost me more than I had offered on this '89.