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Old 05-03-2014 | 07:08 PM
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Isn't it supposed to line up completely?
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Yes it is supposed to align dead on, and that is what the last two pics show, correct ?
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Also have installed the belt and now ready to pull the "grenade pin" but before I doI would like to confirm that from the pics all looks as it should.
The tensioner and pulley bolts are reversed.
They should be installed as per the Black addendum pic, above.
The longer regular bolt goes through the pulley. The flange head goes with the lever.


Both bolts are a little longer than normal so that the shank/body of the bolt goes into the bracket somewhat.
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Can you post a picture 'straight on'.
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I have never done it this way. I have always lined up the notches. Sorry I am no help.
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Thank you Ken, I thought both bolts where same lenght. I guess I will remove and change, thanks.

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Hey Ken, is it really important to switch those two bolts ? Would you live with this setup ? I don't want to be lazy, but it's pain in the *** to remove the complete bracket.

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IIRC, the smaller 50mm bolt is long enough for the pulley position, but it's not ideal.

Personally, I would switch it. I have become very patient with these types of mistakes, having R&R'ed the timing belt so many times.



Note, always check the distributor bolt holes are roughly centered in the cam gear slots if you are using the notch for alignment.
(They are often at one end or the other because someone strung the belt incorrectly.)


Trivia: those are original late '85 cam gears.
They are rev. 01, but they don't have the smaller holes between the big ones that are on '86-up 01 gears.



The smaller hole lines up with a drilled boss behind the 5-8 gear at #1 0|T.
Possibly for a assembly line tool to hold the cam while stringing the belt?

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André,

Follow Ken's advice and switch it. Not much work.
Then you'll know it is done the right way and sleep better.

Good day after all.
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Yes Bertrand I will change it no matter what. If that is the correct way then so be it. And Ken, I was not doubting your expertise, I just wanted to know and understand what the difference was. Thank you again Ken for taking the time to assist me.
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Ken I don't understand why you are showing me pics of the timing gears when we were talking about the porken tensioner. Is it in relation to my pics of the timing gears alignment ? If so are you telling me my gears are not aligned correctly ? Sorry if I sound so stupid but mechanical is not my forte. But I am willing to learn.
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I understand that the brige spacer in the pic below is only for the S4 and up ?
Next thing, since I have an S3 where do I connect the grouding connector shown below ?
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Here are two pics, different angles, which bolt goes in here in the WP ?
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Default Smeels like success, can someone confirm please ?

Here are the pics of the timing gears at 45 and the black mark aligns with the v notch on the back cover. Belth seems to track correctly, I placed it same location as previous one, which was fine. Also I used a ruler with centimeters since nothing in mm so small, and it looks like the tensioner is at 8 mm (.8cm). I have rotated the engine 5 times in all 10 crank rotations and the belt traction is where it is and the tensioner also. So in my untrained eyes everything looks good. Is it ?
Next step is to reinstall center timing cover with grounded tensioner light, if I can find where to place bracket, on which bolt !
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Looks good!

Originally Posted by Andre The Giant
And Ken, I was not doubting your expertise, I just wanted to know and understand what the difference was.
No worries. Through repetitive head pounding I have found it's much better to take a little more time and do things a few times over, if necessary.

Originally Posted by Andre The Giant
Ken I don't understand why you are showing me pics of the timing gears when we were talking about the porken tensioner. Is it in relation to my pics of the timing gears alignment ? If so are you telling me my gears are not aligned correctly?
The part about making sure the rotor bolt holes are roughly centered in the cam gear slots was the main information.

The rest was trivia (for you and the folks watching at home).

Originally Posted by Andre The Giant
Next step is to reinstall center timing cover with grounded tensioner light, if I can find where to place bracket, on which bolt !
The 'L' terminal goes on the bolt between the belt, next to the old tensioner pivot boss.

Make sure to plug the hole in the water pump with the 8mm bolt and copper washer.

The 10mm bolt and 'dog bone' are used with a S4 type water pump. You will not use them. Free key chain!


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