2014 Tire Recommendations
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I've put about 8 sets of Kumhos on 7 cars over the past 10 yrs & yet to have one single issue or complaint with any of em. From multiple 928s; BMWs; Mustangs; Hyundai; Truck; SUV. I've used the Ecsta ASXs on the sports cars. City, highway, track, rain, you name it, they've been flawless for me, good tread wear & life. Good selection of sizes with the Tire Rack & they get them to you or your installer quick. And you can't beat the price for the quality of the product. A Tire Rack guy told me about 8 yrs ago that Kumho used to be in the racing world only, & wanted to make a good impact into the consumer world. Thus they have made a strong effort to make a good product at a very competitive price.
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Yea, I generally avoid driving in the rain because of the tires but I got caught once on my way home. Never again. I basically glided home.
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+1 for Continental Extreme Contact DW or DWS. I run the DWS so I can drive the shark year round (unless there is snow or ice on the road) and love them. Good grip for an all-season tire, good wear and low noise all at a reasonable cost.
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This report supports my own impressions of the Ventus S1 Noble 2
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...&affiliate=BN4
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...&affiliate=BN4
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Great information here... I'm open to most, but Kumho's are out. Tried them once, car didn't track straight, and I decided there are enough alternatives.
I just looked-up the exact age of the current tires: The rears were made in 2005, and the fronts in 2006... LOL! All are Yokohamas - now historic.
Whatever I get - I want to have them mounted at a shop that does road force balancing. With a car as sensitive as the 928, this is a must. The local America's Tire store used to have a such machine, but no more. The only other nearby place (Les Schwab) recommended Toyo Proxes 4 Plus. I am not familiar with these.
I just looked-up the exact age of the current tires: The rears were made in 2005, and the fronts in 2006... LOL! All are Yokohamas - now historic.
Whatever I get - I want to have them mounted at a shop that does road force balancing. With a car as sensitive as the 928, this is a must. The local America's Tire store used to have a such machine, but no more. The only other nearby place (Les Schwab) recommended Toyo Proxes 4 Plus. I am not familiar with these.
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Another question: When I do a Tire Rack search, I get a lot of front tires with load index of "91". It is my understanding that the 928 needs "94" front and back.
Is this true, and would the lower weight index make the car understeer? What other effects will I see from a lower load rating?
The Hankoog Ventus V12 sound like a pretty good deal. But I would be inclined to choose the Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position, if a load index of 91 is OK; the reason being the better noise comfort, according to Tire Rack.
Is this true, and would the lower weight index make the car understeer? What other effects will I see from a lower load rating?
The Hankoog Ventus V12 sound like a pretty good deal. But I would be inclined to choose the Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position, if a load index of 91 is OK; the reason being the better noise comfort, according to Tire Rack.
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Higher load index gives a stiffer sidewall on the tire. Stiffer sidewall usually gives a less compliant tire (less comfort) but higher stability.
The index is for the maximum weight the wheel can take. Here is a table for the weights:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=35
The index is for the maximum weight the wheel can take. Here is a table for the weights:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=35
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I'll second Jim's recommendation of the Michelin Pilot Super Sport. They are, simply, the BEST tires I've ever had on any car. They stick better than dedicated autocross tires I've had in the past (Avon Tech R and Hoosier A3S05) and have a 300 tread wear rating.
I've autocrossed on the PSS and PS2's back to back and the Super Sports smoke the PS2's!
I've autocrossed on the PSS and PS2's back to back and the Super Sports smoke the PS2's!
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The max axle weights are different between front & rear (rear is about 20% more) so it makes sense to have a differential load rating between the front & rear tires too. The load rating in lbs between rating 91 & 94 is only about 10% different and you can commonly get 94's for the rears - so I think its likely just fine.
Vehicle load allows for a full tank of gas, four 150lb passengers & luggage capaciity. Probably an unlikely scenario for most usage.
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Vehicle load allows for a full tank of gas, four 150lb passengers & luggage capaciity. Probably an unlikely scenario for most usage.
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But for some reason they didn't last long in the rear. Did wear perfectly flat all the way down past rubber though.
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I've also run Kuhmo's and Bridgestones. The Hankooks are my favorite for ride/performance/noise/value.
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Somewhere around here is another tire thread where a couple people reported in that in their opinion, the Hankook tire is a great value for the money. They key word is value, and they are inferior to other tires (that cost more) like those from Bridgestone and Michelin.
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I've never driven on the Hankook's so this is in no way my opinion. Just trying to share data points - and hopefully someone else can find that thread![Stick Out Tongue](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
Here is a review of the Hankook vs the S-04 on a BMW forum:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...-position.html
IMO it's not a fair comparison since the Pole Position is the top of the Bridgestone Potenza line and usually one of the best performance tires money can buy. I doubt you will find many people that have really tested both pick the Hankook's over the S-04 unless cost was the most deciding factor.
More comments here:
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...s.-Bridgestone)
My next set of Shark Shoes will be BFGoodrich KDW2's. Same tire George uses in the open road races. Inexpensive, sticky, but some report loud as they wear down (something I'm not concerned with).
I give up trying to find that thread...
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I've never driven on the Hankook's so this is in no way my opinion. Just trying to share data points - and hopefully someone else can find that thread
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http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...-position.html
IMO it's not a fair comparison since the Pole Position is the top of the Bridgestone Potenza line and usually one of the best performance tires money can buy. I doubt you will find many people that have really tested both pick the Hankook's over the S-04 unless cost was the most deciding factor.
More comments here:
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...s.-Bridgestone)
My next set of Shark Shoes will be BFGoodrich KDW2's. Same tire George uses in the open road races. Inexpensive, sticky, but some report loud as they wear down (something I'm not concerned with).
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Previous potenza's I have used (S-02-PP/S-03-PP) had great grip - but lost a little of it as they wore down (still with enough tread left), were a little noisy with even but horribly fast tread wear on the rears, and just OK on the fronts...
After about 3 rear sets of each I decided I needed something that would last a little longer.
Not sure if the S-04's will be like this - but the S-02 and S-03 were quite similar in character.
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After about 3 rear sets of each I decided I needed something that would last a little longer.
Not sure if the S-04's will be like this - but the S-02 and S-03 were quite similar in character.
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We took our 89 to New Orleans this past late summer, early fall, then to 3rd coast and back to Vegas. This was the first real trip on the Hankooks. Really great tires, and we hit rain, wind, ****ty roads, everything but snow, or ice. Great ride, handling, no noise.
FWIW, the Ferrari crowd here in Vegas, could care less what tires cost. If it doesn't handle they pull'em off, and go to something else. Most were running Pilot Sports, or Pirelli's on their cars. Most have switched to the Hankooks. I did because of their recommendations. The runflats on the car were worn out too.
FWIW, the Ferrari crowd here in Vegas, could care less what tires cost. If it doesn't handle they pull'em off, and go to something else. Most were running Pilot Sports, or Pirelli's on their cars. Most have switched to the Hankooks. I did because of their recommendations. The runflats on the car were worn out too.