Shawn Stanford

Hi there.

As several of you are personally aware, I'm actively looking for a Shark. My brother has a line on one out near him in western New York state.

Here's the quandary: my brother is a good wrench, I'm not. I have a decent set of tools, and I can follow instructions, but I'm not so good at troubleshooting - especially visually, and I don't work fast, since I have to figure things out as I go. So, when he says, "This is a great car! It's a daily driver.", his idea of 'great' and mine are not always sympatico. Plus, he's not as familiar with P-cars as he is with others.

So, he's going to take pictures of this car and I'd appreciate it if I could run these past the hive (Shark?) mind. That being said: what pictures should I have him take? Let me make it easier: what 6-8 pictures (angles, areas, etc.) would allow you give a good evaluation of the condition/value of a Shark

Thanks in advance!

Also: If anyone knows of one, I'm looking for an early car and about the only 'must have' is A/C. I'd also prefer an automatic. I've only got a few thousand to spend on this toy, so I know it won't be perfect. Mechanicals are more important that cosmetics.

Bilal928S4

Usually it's the other way around. Mechanicals can be worked on over time, but cosmetics are very costly and time consuming. Just my .928 cents.

auzivision

1) Engine Bay, 2) Drivers Seat, 3) Rear Quarter Windows, 4) Dash, 5) Front, 6) Rt Side, 7) Rear, 8)Lt Side.

I agree with Bilal that cosmetics more so than mechanicals determine the overall value for they are much more costly.

A very high percentage of 928 came with A/C, but a pretty good portion are no longer functioning. R-12 systems can get very spendy to repair.

This place is more like an tank than a hive

Shawn Stanford

If 2/3rds the value of a 928 is the cosmetics, that works out in my favor. I want a car I can drive, and I can work on rough cosmetics while I do so.

Thanks for the help!

Landshark87

if you're not going to do the work yourself, do you have a good *928* (not just Porsche) mechanic nearby?

i bought my car thinking it needed some minor things and interior work done - i can handle that. several surprises later, and its been in the shop for the past 3 weeks of my 5 week ownership.

while they are robust machines when properly cared for, even little things can make them almost undriveable - window stuck down/no AC in summer/lights not working/alarm system craziness can make for a not-so-good daily driver.

Mrmerlin

Hi Shawn since you have been here for a while i would suggest before you buy anything that you reread the FAQ at the top of the page.

This will add to your knowledge base and make it easier for you to decide where and how you spend your money.
As always I suggest to figure out how much you have to spend then add in how much you can dedicate for repairs.
IE 3K for the car 4K for repairs then also consider looking for cars that cost 7K.

In the long run, its much easier and usually less time consuming,
and money consuming,
to buy a car that has had a PO fixing the many systems that need repair.

In other words buy a sorted out car, unless you want a project.

The sorted out car will usually be drivable and you can use it right away,
VS having a shadow on your garage floor for 6 to 8 months while you repair various systems.

For me I don't mind taking on a project,
as I will go through the whole car before setting it out for DD use.

I much prefer cosmetics to be good VS mechanical,
its much easier to buff a paint job to a nice luster than to be stripping off old paint .

Mechanical figure a TB/WP so you start fresh, also MMs and possibly a set of TT bearings and A/C and HVAC system repair.

Interior parts are also a consideration a few cracks in a dash or pod are more minor,
but cracked leather seats are more major.

As always the more info you can provide as well as adding in pictures,
the better the guidance and suggestions will be

Shawn Stanford

Good call. Will do.

Exactly my thinking.

Frankly, I was a little surprised at how well-sorted the vast majority cars were at Frenzy. I expected a few more that were like the 'Franken-Shark': running well, but body and interior 'works in progress'. I'm not sure if those people aren't on Rennlist, stayed away from Frenzy, or just don't exist.

Interestingly: You will see a fair amount of that in the 356/911 community. So far as I can tell, it's a well-respected approach to preservation among those guys.

I have a mechanic I trust, and I'll do what I can and learn as I go. Like I said: I can follow instructions. However, Stan is moving back to Philly, and my Cayenne has a hitch...



Thanks for the input, much appreciated!