NoVector

Yep - no gimmicks in the 95's ad: (note auto, not 5sp)

eijun

Yea all '95 models were automatics.
You cant really bend any facts on ebay for that $$$ amount on ebay or they can slap it back with it the ebay/paypal protection for false advertising.

I thought it was around 70ish that made its way officially into the USA.

cobalt

Might be pushing the "are bound to increase in value while you sleep" Still waiting to see the move in this market like the air cooled 911's I don't think their time has come quite yet.

cobalt

This is from the 928 registry

By the numbers! Color and Transmission breakdown for 1995 model year GTSs

Black 30 total 13 5-speeds & 17 automatic

Guards Red 10 total 4 5-speeds & 6 automatic

Midnight Blue 9 total 5 5-speeds & 4 automatic

Polar Silver 9 total 3 5-speeds & 6 automatic

Grand Prix White 7 total 4 5-speeds & 3 automatic

Aventurine Green 4 total all automatics

Black Metallic 2 total all automatics

Pearl White 1 total automatic

Zermatt Silver 1 total automatic

Crystal Emerald Green 1 total 5-speed

Speed Yellow 1 total automatic

Pearlglanz Green 1 total automatic

Unknown 1 total automatic

Total of 77 1995 928 GTSs

30 5-speeds and 47 automatics

auzivision

Wow someone has at least three nice sharks now.

JWise

There were 47 Automatic equipped GTS' imported to NA in 1995. Of those, 6 were Polar Silver Metallic. This car is one of those six. What's the gimmick?

RKD in OKC

Muscle cars are becoming common and those that got that car of their youth after owning it a while are reminded why they sold it back then. I think we are seeing car guys looking for something less common with some class that still has the umph of a muscle car, but isn't the high cost of a 993 twin turbo.

At least that is what I am gathering from people I meet that see and talk to me about my GTS. When I bump into them again besides asking to be put on the serious buyer's list for when/if I decide to sell, a couple even told me they found a guy in Springfield that has a bunch of them for sale. So they have been interested enough to actively google 928s for sale.

An example is the wound care doctor that has been treating my foot. He has a Buick Grand National that he has just finished restoring. He used to have a 944 Turbo and talked about wanting a 993 Twin Turbo but they just want too much for them. After seeing me pick up my car from the hospital valet and hearing my drive off, my next appointment he told me about finding Willhoit's site and wanting on the waiting list for my car.

NoVector

I thiink you missed the point--it's not about the stratification. Read the quote in my post and then look at the ad.

Consider 3 cars were sold. One was a 93 auto that sold for $42.9, one was an 94 5-sp that sold for $82.9 and the other was a 95 auto that sold for $82.9. All 3 ads are replete with stratification and hyperbole. So, whatever caused the 94 and 95 to sell for almost twice the price of the 93, it wasn’t lack of verbal “gimmicks” in the 95’s ad - and it wasn’t because the 93 was an auto--the 95 was too.

BTW - Mr. Wilhoit, thanks for everything you're doing for these cars.

giddyupp

Does anyone have any idea why the 95 Auto would be worth almost twice the price of the 93. It makes no sense to me at all.

Also - All these cars are still for sale on the Wilhoit web site. Not sure if that means anything though.

ROG100

95 - last of the last. Lots of 93 cars very few 95.

Range Rover

Very very few '95's. Especially with low mileage and equipped with a 5 speed. Automatics are obviously almost as rare.

cobalt

I have always questioned why the 94-95's sell for so much more than the 93's however there is a significant difference. With the GTS it is not much different than the 91-92 3.3 L 964 turbos vs the 94 3.6L turbo which are somewhat different cars unlike the GTS's. Although the difference in desirability might be on par with the difference between GTS auto vs 5 speeds there is a significant delta difference in price over the GTS for this one option. Recently a 94 turbo 3.6 with 85k miles sold for $75k yet a 33k mile 1992 3.3 turbo sold for only $57k while a 35k mile 94 turbo sold for $139k. Serious differences, why? one major factor is mileage the second is interest and the market is focused on the 94's. This 94 happened to be in speed yellow which is also a factor. Although as we see the 94's hit these numbers it is elevating the value of the 3.3L cars.

The same seems to go for the GTS's. Although owning a late vin 93 5 speed IMO is no different driving experience than driving a 94 or 95 5 speed they do command more and for some reason the early vin 93's are a small step below the early vin. So supply and demand in this case there is demand but far less than there is currently for the 964 turbo 3.6. Although there are similar quantities of GTS's to 3.6 turbos (411 vs 350 for US) only the right low mileage clean 94's and especially the 95's are catching the attention of the collector.

Here we clearly see the difference in value of the 5 speeds vs autos. The same mileage on both the 94 5 speed and the 95 auto yet both sold for the same price. Assuming the silver 95 was a 5 speed I would not hesitate to wager that the 95 as a 5 speed would have commanded considerably more than it did. I will also go out on a limb and say if the 93 was late vin vs early it might have commanded a bit more than it did.

I don't see anything that Michael is doing that sells these cars other than the car itself. Anyone buying these cars know what they are about he is just doing his job and putting the facts down for those interested with his personal flair. He sets a price based on market, condition, mileage, color and options. As the rest of the right 94 & 95 MY cars get gobbled up and the owners decide not to sell, you will more than likely see an increase in the lower mileage 93's along with the higher mileage 94 & 95's. This is the same thing that has happened to the turbo market and just about every other vintage Porsche I don't see why the GTS or even the right clean earlier 928's shouldn't follow.

inactiveuser1

Hagerty has value of 1993's listed at $63.8k for #1 shape
http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtool...port?vc=852016
They show them under 928's and the 1994's under 928 GTS
So far nothing on the 1995's

cobalt

Boy if that was only true. My GTS I would consider better than #2 shape. A near perfect multiple concours winning, blemish free, unique color, 5 speed with original paint and mechanically perfect, dust free car. I would sell it in an instant if I could get close to those numbers for it but with 65k miles I would be lucky to get $40k for it.

Interesting if you check they tell you to deduct 20% for autos So if this car is condition #2 as an auto it should have sold for $39,360.00 so he overpaid according to them and there is hope for mine yet.

Although if you punch in 1994 turbo mine is definitely #1 condition and they value it at only $53,300.00 when I know I can easily get well into 6 figures for it all day long.

Jhoffmann

Michael has a habbit of leaving the cars on his site for several months after they are sold. He says it is to generate interest and see if there are more serious buyers out there. If there are, he has an uncanny ability to track down something similar for the interested buyer.