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08-13-2013, 10:30 PM
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How, exactly, are the 356 and the 959 not really 911s?
That's more or less like saying that one of either a '79 928 or a '95 GTS is not 928.
I guess that means the 996, 997,and 991s are not 911s either?
That's more or less like saying that one of either a '79 928 or a '95 GTS is not 928.
I guess that means the 996, 997,and 991s are not 911s either?
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08-13-2013, 10:37 PM
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In its day the 356 may have had something, but today....pfft. Not worth driving IMHO. No brakes to speak of, definitely no longer a drivers car. I have no quibble with a 959, but the low volume and cost make them an anomaly. And a 924 of any sort?? WTF?
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08-13-2013, 10:46 PM
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I posted "Yeah, just gloss over the 928. It didn't lead the front engine super car class for Porsche or anything. It wasn't their fastest car or anything. Wasn't car of the year it was introduced. You are a bunch of tools putting the 924 ahead of the 928."
08-13-2013, 11:20 PM
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Guys,
They're never going to come around. They haven't since 79. They aren't now.
Let it pass.
We KNOW what we advocate for, work on, and drive.
Let them pass.
They're never going to come around. They haven't since 79. They aren't now.
Let it pass.
We KNOW what we advocate for, work on, and drive.
Let them pass.
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08-14-2013, 12:11 AM
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08-14-2013, 12:22 AM
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I doubt they have driven any of the Porsche models. Maybe a cheap early Audi 924, that's why they probably even mentioned it. They mention the other models with getting their experience from Youtube videos or articles on Google.
928 is a forgotten car, most people that recognize it, either remember it from risky business or Scarface. You really don't see people walking up to you and recognizing the car for what it really was or how it changed the automotive design (interior center console design, integrated front and rear bumpers, ...just to name a few).
I remember reading an article 3 years ago about old super cars, and the only car that was mentioned from the 80s for Porsche was the 911 turbo (930)...
928 was indeed a clean sheet design from Porsche. But if you really think about it, did Porsche really wanted to design and make the 928?
Porsche always believed that the engine should be in the back for better traction/handling. Where do you think formula one adapted the original idea of moving the engine to the back from the front?
Read about the Auto Union formula one race car design that Porsche was involved in. Big engine on the back designed and built in the early 30s before the rear engined VW beetle design started.
Porsche was scared to lose the American market, so they designed the 928 with long nose and a big front V8 engine.
928 was a market induced car, it was not a car Porsche always dreamed of making but was looking for the right time and budget to do it. They always wanted to make rear flat engined sports cars. That's their DNA, their blood line.
928 is a forgotten car, most people that recognize it, either remember it from risky business or Scarface. You really don't see people walking up to you and recognizing the car for what it really was or how it changed the automotive design (interior center console design, integrated front and rear bumpers, ...just to name a few).
I remember reading an article 3 years ago about old super cars, and the only car that was mentioned from the 80s for Porsche was the 911 turbo (930)...
928 was indeed a clean sheet design from Porsche. But if you really think about it, did Porsche really wanted to design and make the 928?
Porsche always believed that the engine should be in the back for better traction/handling. Where do you think formula one adapted the original idea of moving the engine to the back from the front?
Read about the Auto Union formula one race car design that Porsche was involved in. Big engine on the back designed and built in the early 30s before the rear engined VW beetle design started.
Porsche was scared to lose the American market, so they designed the 928 with long nose and a big front V8 engine.
928 was a market induced car, it was not a car Porsche always dreamed of making but was looking for the right time and budget to do it. They always wanted to make rear flat engined sports cars. That's their DNA, their blood line.
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08-14-2013, 12:41 AM
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08-14-2013, 09:38 AM
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Well, it is obvious they have never visited the Porsche Museum. The 'last' 928 produced, a midnight blue/classic grey 928 GTS is on exhibit there, and at the end of the ~3-4 minute description of the car, the narrator says "so this was the end of the Porsche 928, perhaps the finest car ever built by Porsche".
That statement is as of a year after the museum opened!
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That statement is as of a year after the museum opened!
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08-14-2013, 11:48 AM
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It's disappointing to see a great car dismissed time after time. And, it reduces the value of the line considerably.
From that list, the 959 is a 911, it can be argued that the 356 is just an early 912 so I guess that qualifies. The 924 started life as a VW sports car, and had to carry the Audi inline engine which was being produced in large numbers for various chassis. VW scrapped the 924 project and went with the Scirroco(a wise choice, and great little car), so it became the red-headed step child of the Porsche marque by accident, and was built mostly by VW and Audi. I don't care that a duded up GT low volume model was eventually produced, it can NO WAY come close to the advancements and design standards set by the 928. One look at the US bumpers between the 924 and 928 tells you all you need to know. The 924 was a mishmash of grab goodies from the Audi parts bin, and the fact it had a Porsche badge on it was an oversight in an attempt to make some money for Porsche, which it did.
Leaving off the 914-6 and the 928 tells me they never drove any of the cars on this list, much less other Porsches not 911 based. I doubt they got Seinfeld or Leno to let them so much as look at the 959 much less drive one. Complete asshats.
From that list, the 959 is a 911, it can be argued that the 356 is just an early 912 so I guess that qualifies. The 924 started life as a VW sports car, and had to carry the Audi inline engine which was being produced in large numbers for various chassis. VW scrapped the 924 project and went with the Scirroco(a wise choice, and great little car), so it became the red-headed step child of the Porsche marque by accident, and was built mostly by VW and Audi. I don't care that a duded up GT low volume model was eventually produced, it can NO WAY come close to the advancements and design standards set by the 928. One look at the US bumpers between the 924 and 928 tells you all you need to know. The 924 was a mishmash of grab goodies from the Audi parts bin, and the fact it had a Porsche badge on it was an oversight in an attempt to make some money for Porsche, which it did.
Leaving off the 914-6 and the 928 tells me they never drove any of the cars on this list, much less other Porsches not 911 based. I doubt they got Seinfeld or Leno to let them so much as look at the 959 much less drive one. Complete asshats.