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If anyone fits this servicing and keying need at the same time...its 928intl.
Thanks, Jeff, for this plug because that is exactly why I put one of the Separation Devises there on essentially permanent loan with Mark A.
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ReDesign by FEATHER
by Jerry Feather
Producer for 928 of:
-Hatch Latch Receiver Liner--All Versions
-Replacement Heavy Duty Spare Tire Cover
-Flush Center Console Conversion
-Cowl Cover, Cowl Seal, & Shell Stickers--All versions
(RHD included)
-Aluminum Gas Cap Ratcheting Pawl
Well that is not a lot of response, but it is quite interesting because it has given rise to me coming up with a different kind of lending program for these devises. Thanks Michael and Kiwi Ken.
My original plan or thoughts about the use of these devises, as kind of described piecemeal throughout this thread, was to have 5 or 6 of them located around the world with someone(s) who would then send it and a pawl on loan to someone in their part of the world to use and return to them. No one ever raised their hand about being one of those persons, except maybe now Ken in NZ. The problem with that it with the shipping back and forth which would end up kind of expensive.
Now Michael's post, and Kens also, both give me another idea about how better to put these into use. Now my idea is to use the devise to kind of put someone, like Michael and/or Ken if a position of kind of being in the business of replacing Pawls in caps for short times like for a given period in their local area or more likely at some regular 928 get together like Frenzy or 3rd Coast or SF22 or 23 (?), or even one called in part for the gas cap purpose. Rather than lending the devise from a given place or person the person would be the one to put it into use to replace the Pawl in as many caps as come around for that or are in need at a given GTG. My price for the Pawl is $25 and I would send maybe 20 or 25, or some other predictable number with the devise and possibly one or two red outer shells for the time when one might be broken in the separation process. The price for the replacement service will be $60 and the cap owner will be required to buy one of the red shells for $60 if his is broken in the process. His risk. The operator of the devise will return it and the unused pawls and shells with the money in US dollars for the Pawls and for any cap red shell used. I pay the shipping there and he pays it to return in the time limit allowed. That can be something like a month or two. or more for various other parts of the world. The devise will not be loaned out further than where I send one.
I have provided a service a few times with this program where the cap is sent to me for repair and clean up and then returned. That could also be the approach with whoever has the devise on loan for a time.
Another aspect of this program that could come into play has to do with the need to re-key one of the caps. I haven't done much with that although I did find online somewhere a set of the little doohickies that go into the locks, so it's possible to include a few of them with the devise also. The user will have to figure out how to make that work. One thing I have found with these caps in this regard is that although there are 6 or 8 places/slots in each lock for the little doohickies there is never more than two of them in a cap lock.
I would happily volunteer to help with repairing gas caps for those in the area. There are a few 928's in the Portland and there are bunch up in the Seattle-ish area. I am sure we could have an 'event' this summer where R&R gas caps could be a regular old tech session of sorts. I am happy to help in service to all the help that has been shared to me.
OK, Michael, here is what I am going to do with you. I'm going to send you one of the Devises together with 20 Pawls and a Red Cap Shell, (and maybe a white one, now that I think about it) right away. I will include a couple copies of the instructions. You should wait until you get the Devise to replace the Pawl I already sent you. Then you can fix your own cap and then have the Devise to fix any other caps around there, but then hold it for several weeks in order to try to structure some kind of venture up to the Puget Sound area to fix any of those caps in need. This will be a bit longer than I anticipate for the Devise ordinarily, but will be a good start to see if this kind of program might work. When you are done with it you will send it back together with $25 for each of the Pawls you have put into service, and $60 for either or each of the cap pieces I send if you needed them. You will not loan the Devise out from there, so you should be the only one using it. You can and should clean the caps up. You should obtain a gallon of Prep All from your auto paint store and put some in a clear jug to soak the two plastic pieces in for a bit. If I can find them I'll include several tiny tubes of grease to lube the pawl and teeth with.
This will be for a lot longer than I expect to provide with any others, but mainly because you will soon have the pawl you bought for yourself to deal with and it will be several weeks before the weather either warms up or clears up enough to plan any kind of event in Seattle or Tacoma.
OK, Michael, here is what I am going to do with you. I'm going to send you one of the Devises together with 20 Pawls and a Red Cap Shell, (and maybe a white one, now that I think about it) right away. I will include a couple copies of the instructions. You should wait until you get the Devise to replace the Pawl I already sent you. Then you can fix your own cap and then have the Devise to fix any other caps around there, but then hold it for several weeks in order to try to structure some kind of venture up to the Puget Sound area to fix any of those caps in need. This will be a bit longer than I anticipate for the Devise ordinarily, but will be a good start to see if this kind of program might work. When you are done with it you will send it back together with $25 for each of the Pawls you have put into service, and $60 for either or each of the cap pieces I send if you needed them. You will not loan the Devise out from there, so you should be the only one using it. You can and should clean the caps up. You should obtain a gallon of Prep All from your auto paint store and put some in a clear jug to soak the two plastic pieces in for a bit. If I can find them I'll include several tiny tubes of grease to lube the pawl and teeth with.
This will be for a lot longer than I expect to provide with any others, but mainly because you will soon have the pawl you bought for yourself to deal with and it will be several weeks before the weather either warms up or clears up enough to plan any kind of event in Seattle or Tacoma.
If you agree, let me know..
Yes, agree! It will be fun to help others out and thanks for the tips on the cleaning.I have a small ultrasonic cleaner that would be perfect for cleaning as well. No rush in sending the Device out, I’m headed out on vacation till feb 11th. Thank you so much for your generosity and contributions.
for others following along,once I am up and running, I’ll post something in the forum and the local Pacific Northwest email list (PacNW928@groups.io)
question is this a 928 only fix or does apply to 944/968 and some 911 models?
Last edited by Michael Benno; 02-04-2022 at 11:49 AM.
Hi Jerry,
I would be happy to be the 'Down Under' gatekeeper of one tool and a few pawls - we have an active 928 group going in New Zealand and are in close contact.
Kind Regards
Ken
1991 S4
Ken, I am prepared to make you a similar offer to the one above that I am working out with Michael B. I suppose now is a good time to send one to you for a few months while you are still having some summer and hopefully a nice fall. I would send you the Devise and some pawls for about 3 or 4 months or until your winter sets in, then have you return it as Michael is going to be doing. Look over my post to him and see if you have anything to add or propose different. Thanks for your interest.
Hi Jerry,
Thanks for that - before you pull the trigger let me send out a message to all our 928 group down under to see how many takers we have.
Kind Regards
Hi Jerry,
I have put the word out here and have about 10 people keen plus I suspect more will follow - so good to go my end. One question raised by someone is that there appears to be two different types of red gas cap and I understand they have different pawls? Mine is type A which I assume has the pawl you make?
Hi Jerry,
I have put the word out here and have about 10 people keen plus I suspect more will follow - so good to go my end. One question raised by someone is that there appears to be two different types of red gas cap and I understand they have different pawls? Mine is type A which I assume has the pawl you make?
I will send you my address by PM
Kind Regards
Ken 928 gas cap types
Good point, Ken. The one I have a Pawl for is A on the left in your picture. I did not make any Pawls for B and they are quite different from A. The obvious difference in the caps is only the length of the center post in the whitish part. B is shorter. On the other hand I think the pawl in B is not as prone to breaking as in A. The Red part of both of them is identical.
Now I have to wonder if my Pawl might in fact fit in the B cap and if so why it would not function there also even though the "teeth" are different. I'm going to investigate that.
I have a type "A" gas cap (as mentioned above) from a 1985 model. The problem I am having is the cap will not lock. I can insert and turn the key in either direction, but the cap will not lock. Is the pawl the issue?
02-03-2022, 11:39 AM
