Mark Anderson

impressive as always Jerry

Jerry Feather

Now, they are all finished. All that is left is to finish up writing the instructions and then figuring out what to do with the rest of them.

The original plan was kind of to send them around the world to various places from whence they could be loaned out regionally for use by those in need. The mailing becomes an issue with that, and getting them back in some cases might also be a concern.

Now I am thinking that the best approach might be something like I am doing with Mark A. and that is to send them to various entities where they can be put into service, probably for a small fee, with those in need sending their gas cap to the holder of the device and having their cap separated and perhaps sent back with a new pawl, or having a service provided like with Mark A. which might include separation, new pawl, clean up and maybe even re-keying if required, but also having the device available simply for use by those who could drop by for its use.

The problem with the latter approach is that if someone sends their cap to the holder of the device and it gets broken in the process, which I still think is a likelyhood, at least some of the time, who is responsible?

Jerry Feather

I have shipped one of these devices to 928 International for their use in their business as they see fit, but also to be available to anyone around there who might wish to come by and take their own cap apart, following the instructions provided with the device. I'm sure that the one I sent will be there to use at SF 18 this coming weekend. I also sent Mark A a small number of Gas Cap Pawls that he can sell to anyone he might desire, perhaps including those who come by to use the device on their own cap.

As a side note, since I have had a limited number of opportunities to actually use the device myself, I am nevertheless finding that it really works slick. There is some care that must be exercised in its use; and I still have some fear that the red part of someone's cap is going to be broken in the separation operation. So far not in my use; but I have broken the center out of one or two of the white parts of the cap with it. There is some particular caution written into the instructions about the care that must be taken to try to avoid that.

Too, it should be noted that there are two versions of the 928 gas cap, and in my attempt to gather some of them I find that about half of those I have found on eBay are the earlier type. Probably the only use those will have is to use the red part of them for replacement of the broken red part in the later caps since that part is the same. I don't know where the cut off is in respect to MY of the 928, but I am pretty sure that it relates to the long versus short key. The earlier version of the cap has a shorter center "shaft" and incorporates a different kind of Pawl that I have not replicated.

Now I wish I could come up with the best way to have the rest of these devices spread around the world for use by those in need. Mailing it back and forth, even from various central locations, does not seem to make sense, given the cost of postage both ways for the very brief effort needed in using it.

Ladybug83

Just wanted to give a shout out and huge thank you to Jerry for making these tools.

I recently borrowed 928 International's Jerry Feather gas cap separator tool and I'm so impressed with the design, quality and ease of use of this tool. I had a new gas cap that I wanted to re-key to match my car keys. I used the tool on my old cap as a trial run and it worked flawlessly and with minimal effort. Then I used the tool on the new cap, and had it apart in less than a minute. What a fantastically designed and well built tool.

Endless thanks to Jerry for the selfless efforts in support of the 928 community for designing, building and making available tools like this, without which, one would be up a creek (Or gouging the F out of their gas caps with screwdrivers).

Jerry it was great to meet you at Sharktoberfest this year and I hope to see you again so I can thank you again in person. In the meantime, a toast to you, and I hope you're staying warm and cozy in CO.

Josh

Mark Anderson

Dark shark

That is a beautiful tool and looks like it works very well.

Mark Anderson

The totally cool case was made by Josh.

Jerry Feather

Thanks Josh, for the nice report and the Kudos. Thanks also for following my example and making the cool case for the tool at Mark A's. Thank you Mark for making the tool available for the use of 928 guys in need. Josh, one thing I hope is that you had the forethought to buy one of my aluminum Pawls from Mark to put into your new cap. The plastic one is going to break at some point, so you would have saved yourself another disassembly.

I happened to have taken one of these tools to SF19, and I had the honor to take about 5 caps apart there and replace the Pawls. The tool worked perfectly and the caps all function very well with the new Pawls installed.

I still hope to figure out how to put the rest of these tools into circulation around the World to be available for use by others. Any ideas about some kind of program that might be put into place?

I made about 500 aluminum Pawls and would like to distribute them around with the tools and have them put into use in some manner to meet the needs.

Ladybug83

Well Jerry, unfortunately I'm not known for my forethought. However, I visit 928Intl frequently and will be sure sure to pick up and install a pawl at your suggestion. Another opportunity to use the tool!

The case, I felt, was needed, (and meant as a thank you,) for such a fine piece of art that was so well thought out and presented to the community. I added a small vile of the little numbered tumbler "tabs" so anyone in future might take one they need or add some that they can donate, while re-keying their locks.

As far as the lending program, I think your idea of distributing them to the well established and trusted entities around the world is the best idea. Any such caretaker of the tool should have to take an oath, with one hand on a WSM, that they will not let the tool end up forgotten or lost in someone's garage. I think I paid upwards of $500 for my 9201 tool. This gas cap tool, in my eyes, is far more valuable, given your efforts, and since only 9 exist. They should be well looked after and cared for.

ReDesign by FEATHER

So far this gas cap separation and Pawl replacement program has not taken on any kind of life. Even the one I sent to 928 International for their use and use by others in the area has notresulted in much activity, at least not enough to require that I send them any additional Pawls, and they only started with a dozen or so, maybe 20?I would expect that each time a late gas cap is tae]ken apart the pawl, whether broken or not, ought to be replaced. Josh didn't for some reason.

I still have 7 of the separation tools and nearly 500 pawls. The tools still need to be sent around the world, or at least about 5 of them, and the Pawls distributed with them, both at some cost. Is there any interest?

Michael Benno

Damit Jerry, I didnt even know this existed when I ordered a metal pawl for myself this week. In hindsight I should have ordered the a bunch of pawls because I know of a few 928's locally. Maybe I can solicit the members in the area and we can do several cap conversion to make use of the tool worth-wile. This is awesome let me see if there is local interest.

Hey_Allen

I was lucky(?) and was able to just disassemble mine with a trio of screwdrivers for rekeying before I found that the ratchet pawl was broken in mine.
The ratchet pawl went in while I had it apart, and works perfectly. I've mentioned this part at both of the local get-togethers I've managed to attend.

Thanks again for making them, definitely a part that Porsche should have originally made in metal instead of plastic!

Kiwi928S4

Hi Jerry,
I would be happy to be the 'Down Under' gatekeeper of one tool and a few pawls - we have an active 928 group going in New Zealand and are in close contact.
Kind Regards

Ken
1991 S4

Zirconocene

@Michael Benno : I am interested locally.

Cheers

ReDesign by FEATHER

Well that is not a lot of response, but it is quite interesting because it has given rise to me coming up with a different kind of lending program for these devises. Thanks Michael and Kiwi Ken.

My original plan or thoughts about the use of these devises, as kind of described piecemeal throughout this thread, was to have 5 or 6 of them located around the world with someone(s) who would then send it and a pawl on loan to someone in their part of the world to use and return to them. No one ever raised their hand about being one of those persons, except maybe now Ken in NZ. The problem with that it with the shipping back and forth which would end up kind of expensive.

Now Michael's post, and Kens also, both give me another idea about how better to put these into use. Now my idea is to use the devise to kind of put someone, like Michael and/or Ken if a position of kind of being in the business of replacing Pawls in caps for short times like for a given period in their local area or more likely at some regular 928 get together like Frenzy or 3rd Coast or SF22 or 23 (?), or even one called in part for the gas cap purpose. Rather than lending the devise from a given place or person the person would be the one to put it into use to replace the Pawl in as many caps as come around for that or are in need at a given GTG. My price for the Pawl is $25 and I would send maybe 20 or 25, or some other predictable number with the devise and possibly one or two red outer shells for the time when one might be broken in the separation process. The price for the replacement service will be $60 and the cap owner will be required to buy one of the red shells for $60 if his is broken in the process. His risk. The operator of the devise will return it and the unused pawls and shells with the money in US dollars for the Pawls and for any cap red shell used. I pay the shipping there and he pays it to return in the time limit allowed. That can be something like a month or two. or more for various other parts of the world. The devise will not be loaned out further than where I send one.

I have provided a service a few times with this program where the cap is sent to me for repair and clean up and then returned. That could also be the approach with whoever has the devise on loan for a time.

Another aspect of this program that could come into play has to do with the need to re-key one of the caps. I haven't done much with that although I did find online somewhere a set of the little doohickies that go into the locks, so it's possible to include a few of them with the devise also. The user will have to figure out how to make that work. One thing I have found with these caps in this regard is that although there are 6 or 8 places/slots in each lock for the little doohickies there is never more than two of them in a cap lock.