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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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In the picture there is a throttle rod. Questions?

1. Is there a clip that holds the ball cup on the throttle linkage ?
2. How is retained on the other end in the throttle body ?

Thank you for your help.

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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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No clip to the throttle quadrant. Not sure hot it matches to the body, I never looked.

One thing to note is that always make sure that the screw to the clamp for the lower radiator hose is clear from the rod all the time. When I replaced the thermostat and put everything back together, the rod would rub on the clamp and pop off when I accelerated then my foot would go to the floor but I didn't go anywhere. You'll feel it when the pedal starts "behaving" weird.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 06:40 PM
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1. There should be a small wire clip inside the ball socket. there is a groove that the clip sets in and when the socket is pressed into the ball the clip expands into the groove and allows the socket to slip onto the ball.
2. The throttle body has a similar ball that interfaces with a ball socket, just like the one in the picture.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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Ah, I thought he meant an exterior clip that holds it together. My bad.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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picture of ball socket. this is a ball socket for a 356 but the general construction should be the same if not the same part number.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 76FJ55
1. There should be a small wire clip inside the ball socket. there is a groove that the clip sets in and when the socket is pressed into the ball the clip expands into the groove and allows the socket to slip onto the ball.
2. The throttle body has a similar ball that interfaces with a ball socket, just like the one in the picture.
Simon,
If one has to remove the ball from cup union, how does one remove the clip ?
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If the clip is there, it snaps around just below the ball connector on the outside. You pull it up, rotate it, and slide it out. The same rod on my 86.5 had no retainers nor provisions for them. The arrow in the picture shows the retainer.



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Simon,
If one has to remove the ball from cup union, how does one remove the clip ?
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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more pics...the condition of that plating is promising...
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Originally Posted by MainePorsche
Simon,
If one has to remove the ball from cup union, how does one remove the clip ?
The removal process is just the opposite of the install. to install you just align the ball and cup and press them together. The spring clip will expand over the ball as it is pressed in. Once the ball is seated the clip contracts slightly retaining the ball from coming back out. To remove you simply force the ball back out through the clip. again the clip will expand slightly allowing the ball to pass through.
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Very long nose pliers work well for me when separating and standard pliers for reconnecting.
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Originally Posted by snoz
If the clip is there, it snaps around just below the ball connector on the outside. You pull it up, rotate it, and slide it out. The same rod on my 86.5 had no retainers nor provisions for them. The arrow in the picture shows the retainer.
There is an external clip on a select few ball sockets. This is what is denoted in the picture. This clip is PN 900 169 014 02, and according to PET it is used on the end of the trans kickdown cable and on the ball sockets at the base of the throttle pedal, but those are the only place i see reference to them, so I presume sll the rest have the built in clip.
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add some grease before replacing it, white lithium, I've seen some where the small retainer clips rust out and no longer hold the cup on the ball.
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Originally Posted by 76FJ55
The removal process is just the opposite of the install. to install you just align the ball and cup and press them together. The spring clip will expand over the ball as it is pressed in. Once the ball is seated the clip contracts slightly retaining the ball from coming back out. To remove you simply force the ball back out through the clip. again the clip will expand slightly allowing the ball to pass through.

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Very long nose pliers work well for me when separating and standard pliers for reconnecting.

Originally Posted by 76FJ55
There is an external clip on a select few ball sockets. This is what is denoted in the picture. This clip is PN 900 169 014 02, and according to PET it is used on the end of the trans kickdown cable and on the ball sockets at the base of the throttle pedal, but those are the only place i see reference to them, so I presume sll the rest have the built in clip.
Thanks Guys.
Yes, that's what I thought regarding the external clip.
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Thank you for everyones help.
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