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Old 07-09-2013, 06:22 PM
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Heat is created from resistance in the contacts - it is also related to the current level - but contact resistance should be low enough that this is not a major issue - current level supplied through the switch are not that high...

When you have significant heating in the contacts you also have a voltage drop to the equipment being powered by the switch and usually gradual contact damage occurring also due to the high localized heating at the contact surface.

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Old 07-09-2013, 07:56 PM
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Thanks Alan, I think you may be right. I did change the X-relay out and that didn't solve the problem. But I didn't think about the ignition switch. I thought cleaning the grounds had solved the problem. But it cropped back up when I went for a drive latter last night. How much of a job is that? Not as bad as swapping the engine I hope ;D . Is there a writeup for it?
Old 07-09-2013, 09:18 PM
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Am I correct in assuming the dash pod needs to be removed to replace the switch? I pulled the cover plate on the bottom of the pod and there's not much room in there.
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I also had a 'stop lamp' warning light issue that would not cancel when reset. I found the problem, It was a license plate light. one lamp socket was rusty and corroded. I cleaned the corrosion and replaced both bulbs. That solved my stop lamp issue.
Old 07-09-2013, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ajricker
Thanks Alan, I think you may be right. I did change the X-relay out and that didn't solve the problem. But I didn't think about the ignition switch. I thought cleaning the grounds had solved the problem. But it cropped back up when I went for a drive latter last night. How much of a job is that? Not as bad as swapping the engine I hope ;D . Is there a writeup for it?
Art,
Glad you're on the right track now.
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The electrical part of the ignition switch unplugs from the lock portion, and can be changed by reaching under...
Old 07-10-2013, 02:56 AM
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ajricker, I had exactly the same problem on my S4 MY 88; I did spend months trying to understand the root cause and finally it came out being the ignition key switch. When warn-off it tends to go "lose" and does not work as it should. Just get the whole ignition switch replaced (it's fairly inexpensive, approx 50 us$) and you should be OK! Good luck
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Switch is ordered. We'll see what happens. I'll post results when it's installed.
Old 07-11-2013, 08:35 PM
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I'm doing my research and getting ready to replace the switch when it arrives. Can someone confirm whether the dash pod needs to be removed to replace the switch? I've done a search but didn't find anything on the R&R. Plenty of people talk about doing it. I just haven't found a write up on the procedure.
From what I've learned, the switch is attached to the lock assembly with two screws that come in from the back? Mine has a metal clip that hooks over the bulges in the lock housing and goes behind the switch. It wouldn't kill me to remove the Pod. I do need to replace a bulb or two. But if I don't need to...
Any advice on this procedure would be appreciated. Thanks
Old 07-13-2013, 04:48 PM
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Just an update. I finally got around to replacing the ignition switch today.
I did end up pulling the dash-pod to access the switch. Removing those two screws that attach it to the lock are a PIA.
Got everything put back together and it appears to have resolved my problems. Time will tell.
Thanks for the advice guys.
Old 07-27-2013, 07:43 PM
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thanks for the report back
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Originally Posted by ajricker
Just an update. I finally got around to replacing the ignition switch today.
I did end up pulling the dash-pod to access the switch. Removing those two screws that attach it to the lock are a PIA.
Got everything put back together and it appears to have resolved my problems. Time will tell.
Thanks for the advice guys.
Good job, Art.
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Thanks Craig. We'll see how it go's.
Old 07-28-2013, 01:47 PM
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I took the car out last evening and everything worked as it should. No break light issues. All warning lights came on and went off at start-up as they should.
On the way home from dinner I needed to turn on the headlights and they went up and came on as they should. But no dash illumination. Head unit dims as it should. So I know it must just be in the pod somewhere. The only connectors that I disconnected where the signal switch when I removed it to move the pod forward enough to replace the ignition switch.
Any ideas where to look before I pull it apart again? I've checked all the fuses already.


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