Tony

LOL..i like that thinking.

Im sure the cali cans have some sort of official "approved for sale in the state of California...may cause birth defects....or your guns to be confiscated if found...." sticker...etc etc

Randy V

Of course - it's printed on the can, not just a sticker that can be removed.

Re. the Cali cans having an 'internal valve' - no idea where that thought came from. There is no internal valve - just a threaded top that gets pierced when the gauge adapter is screwed onto it.

Imo000

Consider yourself lucky...all of you. Up here R134a is not sold to the public. A leftover law from the R12 days. You can get ine brand of blended gas that is supposed to be good for R12 and R134a but not the real thing. Red Tek R12a is sold under and I don't use it. I have to smuggle the 134a in.

txhokie4life

How much does an 82 Euro need? I'm in the midst of having my compressor rebuilt as I type.

thanks,

m

Don Carter

Thanks Wally, picked up 8 cans this evening.

Randy V

There should be a metal foil sticker located on top of the radiator that shows the amount in pounds and grams. Your '82 car will use R-12 unless it has been upgraded to R-134a. You can buy R-12 on eBay.

928 International sells rebuilt AC compressors for a good price. What is it costing to have yours rebuilt?

WallyP

You need to exercise a great deal of caution when buying thirty-pound bottles.

One of the most knowledgeable techs on this Forum got a great deal on a thirty-pound bottle of R-12. He found it to be somewhat less of a bargain when it turned out to be water...

BTW - I was wrong on the price. It is $6.44/can.

alabbasi

SAMS club is selling 30lbs jugs for $80

dr bob

Randy--

See the note on the side of the can that says "Requires Adapter"? That's the one I'm referring to. A 'normal' can tapper/valve has a needle that pierces the top of the can when the handle is screwed clockwise, then seals as you continue to turn it clockwise. Makes it tough to disconnect without losing charge from the can (valve screwed down) or the car (valve screwed open) or both with valve midway. The adapter is cheap. When I tried using the normal tapper valve on the Cali can, the needle on the tapper valve wasn't long enough to open the valve in the top of the can.

dprantl

$85 with tax, that's like $2.13 per 12oz...

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

Randy V

You can see in the pic I posted the modern valve and tapper assembly with integrated pressure gauge - no adapter required. The needle is plenty long enough to pierce the threaded top.

Randy V

You can see in the pic I posted the modern valve and tapper assembly with integrated pressure gauge - no adapter required. The needle is plenty long enough to pierce the threaded top.

My point being just that there is no internal shutoff valve on Cali cans.

txhokie4life

I was going to convert the system to r134a,

I just took it to a local shop -- dropped it off and told them to completely rebuild it.
A local 928er led me to believe it wasn't much, I forgot to ask them when I dropped it off. I'll find out how much when I pick it up. I guess when it's 106 outside -- you don't really care -- you just want it fixed :-)

Mike

Imo000

If its cheap to convert than they are not changing the O rings

txhokie4life

Opps, realized I wasn't clear. I'm just having the compressor rebuilt.

The o-rings, dryer, etc I'll be doing myself. Then I'll visit a local mechanic friend to
finish the r134a conversion work.

We've been debating weather to redo all the lines since they've held up well.
however I understand the pressures will be higher with r134a.

maybe in for a penny in for a pound and just do the lines as well.

mike