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Old 04-27-2013, 06:55 PM
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Blasphemy!
I was wondering how long it would take before that came up. Randy wins!

Thanks for all the compliments.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:42 PM
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SOLD. Thanks to all the great RL members who contribute with help and advice and camaraderie. Had some great times, especially at Tass' 928 get-to-gethers. Keep the faith. Thanks again.

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Figured it wouldn't take long. Congrats, Brad!
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Congrats Brad. Bittersweet, I am sure.

Now, who knows of a nice G50 Carrera for sale?
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Congrats Brad, I can't believe you sold that car but glad you didn't give it away..
Have you heard of the '911 stress'? It's subtle, but it's there always.
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Originally Posted by BRB-83-911SC View Post
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Now, who knows of a nice G50 Carrera for sale?
3.2L or 3.6L?

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Have you heard of the '911 stress'? It's subtle, but it's there always.
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Never heard of that term, but I get it. Too many irons in the 928 fire to get wrapped up in the 911. Love looking at them, however.


Brad, have fun on the search for yojr next Pcar!
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:29 AM
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Thanks guys. What is 911 stress? I've owned a 71 911T before but looking for a 78-88 coupe, silver.
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The 911 stress is very real. It is the stress experienced while driving 911s that Porsche obviously made sure was not present in the 928.

'84-'88 Carreras and the Carreras that follow including 993 all have this stress. I think the 993s has much less, but have lost much of the 911 experience.

It is the combination of all of the elements of the car that give it it's character that cause this stress. Power, torsion suspension, vibrations, noise, cramped confines of the greenhouse etc.

I think early 911Ts (or Touring) which make their power down low due to their cams have much less of this stress.
You have to REV 911 motors to get anything out of them, there is very little power under 3500rpm.. Stress.
I can post the power/torque curve of my '86 if you wish, it is the same as the G50s. There is very little power down low(feels like a VW, and can be driven like one)

This is why Brad will eventually really regret his sale.

For me I felt like i was racing every time i got into the car for years due to the revving the motor.

After many years i focused on relaxing a bit and accepting the lack of power at low rpms.

but that is hard to do and after a week of driving them you need a week off.

For the G50 Carreras the stress is still very much present and at it's hieght IMO.

My brother Frank sold his beautiful Weissach Edition example for this reason and he is one tough dude. These G-50s ('87-89s) are considered the best of the 911 breed and are now very collectible. They are.

I am no wuss either when it comes to comfort, i drove a Toyota FJ-40 as a daily driver into Philadelphia and back for years. Like riding a rhino.

I have tried to drive my Carrera daily for many years (since '98) and love the car but by day 5 i am dying to get into something else.

I can drive my 5-speed 928 every day however w/o the stress..
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Mmm, OK but remember my 911T was only a 2.2L, it was light and a euro. I loved it, plenty of power for me. A 3.0 or a 3.2 will have even more torque though heavier. The main reason I sold my 928, and it was very comfortable I will agree, is that it was designed as a GT, eats miles on fast roads and the highway like no other. You will always arrive at your destination not feeling beat up. The thing is, I never go anywhere, I stay local, back roads. The 911 is perfect for my kind of driving and is a true sports car, not a GT. I would never go on a long trip in one. The shape is iconic and no other car really compares in my opinion. Horses for courses.
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Thanks guys. What is 911 stress? I've owned a 71 911T before but looking for a 78-88 coupe, silver.
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I have never heard that term either, but I can understand it. Back in 87 or so I spent a day with a brand new Carerra 3.2 (like this one) and you feel like you have to be "ON" driving it. Not too different from my Suzuki or the 928 in a way. The 928 is slightly different where you can relax but with the custom exhaust calling its not easy. That is why I have always said that these cars are not daily drivers. They are event cars, whether that event is going to a meet or just a spirited drive. If you keep these as just event cars then each time you get in and start up there is excitement. When you get out you definitely have stuff flowing in your blood. A body can't do that everyday, kinda like a workout. Overtraining.
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Mmm, OK but remember my 911T was only a 2.2L, it was light and a euro. I loved it, plenty of power for me. A 3.0 or a 3.2 will have even more torque though heavier. The main reason I sold my 928, and it was very comfortable I will agree, is that it was designed as a GT, eats miles on fast roads and the highway like no other. You will always arrive at your destination not feeling beat up. The thing is, I never go anywhere, I stay local, back roads. The 911 is perfect for my kind of driving and is a true sports car, not a GT. I would never go on a long trip in one. The shape is iconic and no other car really compares in my opinion. Horses for courses.
I know what you are saying, I never thought of owning a 928, used to be an air cooled guy only. Here is the US, 928s make more sense even for how you plan to use your 911 IMO.

911s are very comfortable for long trips, my first trip soon after purchase was to the Outer Banks (9 hours) my younger Brother Dan and my Dog Brindle made the trip together. We topped 140mph on that trip. My Brother used binoculars to look way ahead while we topped it out on a straight, it went over 140 BTW, 911 speedos of the era are usually off though. When i got to NC, i wanted to keep driving. The seats are very comfortable, it is the revving out the motor on back roads to where it is fun, that becomes tiring.
The 928 shape is definitely an icon also, and i believe your old Euro someday will be worth more than the G50 you will purchase to replace it.

The problem with 928 collectibility right now is that they don't feel old yet, they are so modern that you don't feel like your in a classic car, say compared to a late E type from the mid seventies.

Classic car buyers want that old car feeling. I know i do.
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I have never heard that term either, but I can understand it. Back in 87 or so I spent a day with a brand new Carerra 3.2 (like this one) and you feel like you have to be "ON" driving it. Not too different from my Suzuki or the 928 in a way. The 928 is slightly different where you can relax but with the custom exhaust calling its not easy. That is why I have always said that these cars are not daily drivers. They are event cars, whether that event is going to a meet or just a spirited drive. If you keep these as just event cars then each time you get in and start up there is excitement. When you get out you definitely have stuff flowing in your blood. A body can't do that everyday, kinda like a workout. Overtraining.
Agree with some, but 928s don't have the stress IMO when comparing the 2 models.
Ever watch video of Mark A. racing and up-shifting just above 3500 rpms,
even racing it looks relaxing.
Porsche Engineers knew of this stress and got rid of it with the ground breaking 928 design.
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Originally Posted by The Fixer View Post
Agree with some, but 928s don't have the stress IMO when comparing the 2 models.
Ever watch video of Mark A. racing and up-shifting just above 3500 rpms,
even racing it looks relaxing.
Ever watch a video of me driving? The combo of Euro power being at the top end and my custom exhaust combines to make high rpm driving tough to resist. Even though for longer trips it can putt along @ 2800, I usually drive it for the experience and that means constant kickdown and lots of redline. The car is for fun not basic transportation. That's the way these cars are meant to be driven and you can't do that in a tight over-crowded metro area like Boston.
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