ledee416

anyone know where to get one? I am fascinated by kits that do not require new injectors, pumps, or tuning. In the world of the mustang, that simply does not happen.

Lizard928

There are no used ones, and when they do come up, they disappear just as quick.

You can contact Carl for one of his kits.

Murf doesn't make a kit for your model, or I would suggest his!

ledee416

now that my car is running, and I have a good idea that it is a super strong motor, I am entertaining the idea of putting a little boost on it. I called someone... not sure which company a few weeks ago. They told me the low end kit doesnt need any of the things i mentioned above. I do not think it even has an oil cooler. That means that a monkey could install it if need be. I am guessing it will give me about 60-70 extra hp?

Ducman82

^^depends on the kit, more to point the turbo/SC used.

ledee416

I spoke with someone at 928 motorsports. They told me that the only kit they offer for the euro is the stage 2. Apparently the euro kit uses a larger head unit than the others, which in turn as we all know means more CFM, and more power. I am a little leery of the fuel regulator device they are using to change pressure in lieu of tuning. I guess you work with what you can get.

The guy I spoke to seemed pretty confident that the stage 2 kit would produce 80+ hp. That isnt all that much. given the fact that he swore up and down it would be safe to use on a stock motor in good condition, I am ok with it. Has anyone on here used on of these kits?

If so:

1) how was the install? I have half the instructions, and it doesn't seem too bad.

2) what were the pitfall / bottle necks if any?

3) were / are you happy that you went in that direction with the car?

4) what was the total install time?

5) would you, or have you made any changes / mods to the kit to improve / simplify its operation? if so, what were they?

thanks,
D.

Ducman82

Plenty of threads on peoples installs. some people can do it in a day, some take a few weekends.
you will need a better FPR to add more fuel so you dont lean out.

id check out some other threads on peoples installs, might give you a better idea.

ledee416

cool. thanks ducky. is a better regulator a must? Whomever I spoke to at 928ms seemed to think It isnt. I hate that. I would much rather someone tell me the real story than try to omit stuff to make the price point more attractive.

Ducman82

all the kits i have seen, to run the best, to let the kit make the most power, require more fuel and some times more spark. (but im not a forced induction guru)

auzivision

Pitfalls???

Blowing an engine without knock sensor could lead to blowing an engine without knock sensors (the converse is also true).

Shark tuning is more difficult on the older engine management systems, but a few people have accomplished what you inquire.

Search is your friend...
Look for a thread about AO buying DR's old Euro after someone set it up and blew it on the Texas mile. That was a sweat setup, might see if AO has plans for it or not... me thinks he does.

Ted (Cosmo Kramer) in Canada just sold one of the only used SC kits I've seen in years. ImoOOO is another Candian with a home built SC setup.

Also HP (Hacker-Pschorr) knows a lot about this subject as well as a guy named shane in the northwest.

Good luck and keep on digging.

rgs944

Any boost requires getting past some obstacles. With very low boost you will have fewer obstacles but you will have some. Nothing is free. As far as comparing this to Mustang boosting, it likely will not be much different if you want to do it right.

Carl Fausett

I am the one you spoke with on the phone.

The reason we require a Stage II kit for the 300 and 310 HP Euro motors is because of their higher compression ratios of 10.0:1 and 10.4:1, yet with only 2 valves per cylinder. The intercooler adds safety, and as has been said - safety is a big factor on this engine where you have no knock sensors and a highly limited early LH-Jetronic (if your lucky) or the K-Jet fuel system. Neither of which that will respond to boost and both of which have a limited tuning range.

On the K-Jet motor, we get more fuel from a modified WUR. On the LH-Jetronic, 310 HP dual-distributor motor, we supply a FMU to raise the fuel pressure at the injectors under boost. It is adjustable for both rising rate and tip-in point. That engine also can benefit from after-market larger injectors if needs be.

The final solution for both safety and max performance on the LH-Jet equipped 310 HP motor is to pull the LH and EZK system and replace both with a single Electromotive system. Then we can increase injector-on time under boost as well as retard the timing as desired. Every 200 rpm cell can be tuned individually. The result is performance without compromise, and engine safety without compromise.

The kit we ship is a good low-boost (6 psi ) kit. Left as designed, it will give you many years of trouble-free performance.

Where it gets colorful is when the owners take the kit as shipped and start ratcheting up the boost - then they find the fuel system delivery limits of their car and the danger of running lean and engine damage starts.