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Old 07-08-2012, 02:10 PM
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Default Feeler for a comprehensive hardware set for the front end.

The hardware I removed from the front end while doing the steering rack, motor mounts, and oil pan gasket are rusted and corroded. I have measured each fastener and compiled a list of bolts, nuts, and washers to replace every bolt you will have to remove while doing these jobs.

I can post the list for those of you with the time to look up all of the hardware, but I was curious who would be interested in buying a complete bagged and labeled set. I would only charge shipping, the fastener cost, and maybe twenty dollars for my time assemblying the kit and labeling everything. I may even label it with the torque specifications to aid installation.

They would be zinc coated, and the kit would include a set of studs and nuts for the oil pan. It would also include two new banjo bolts complete with crush washers. It would be, at minimum, grade 8 hardware.
Old 07-08-2012, 02:14 PM
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Why not get the porsche cad plated OEM hardware from say..roger?
Old 07-08-2012, 02:41 PM
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Lol i say go for it. Im all for equivalent quality non-OEM non 200% markup because its a Porsche fasteners...

I got a whole new set of exhaust studs and nuts from a fastener place for like 15 bucks.
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There is no true substitute for cadmium plate because it offers sacrificial protection, malleability, freedom from sticky and bulky corrosion products, galvanic compatibility with aluminum, softness, and reliable torque setting through freedom from stick-slip, which no other metal or alloy offers.

there is a reason the hardware today is ugly looking but STILL CAME OFF in one piece after xx years.
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There are 116 individual pieces counting bolts, nuts, and washers. I would probably pay a fortune for the OEM stuff or any cadmium plated stuff. The zinc plating is the next best thing as far as reactivity with aluminum, and with a liberal coating of copper antiseize, you will not have any problems.
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Hell, in that case...go get em re-plated for $100.
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Nice cross member in your avatar, 17prospective buyer. I am powdercoating mine red along with the motor mount brackets. Unfortunately, the cross member won't fit in my furnace, but I decided to make it into a three piece. It will fit at that point.
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Hell, in that case...go get em re-plated for $100.
I don't think I could bring myself to replate twenty-eight year old hardware. The heads would probably strip upon torquing. I cringed everytime I put the pressure on the breaker bar.

I wouldn't mind getting new hardware cadmium plated, but I don't know where you can buy raw hardware. Plating over black oxide or zinc would make the thread fit too tight I imagine, and it probably wouldn't be as chemically adhered to the bolt.
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
There is no true substitute for cadmium plate because it offers sacrificial protection, malleability, freedom from sticky and bulky corrosion products, galvanic compatibility with aluminum, softness, and reliable torque setting through freedom from stick-slip, which no other metal or alloy offers.

there is a reason the hardware today is ugly looking but STILL CAME OFF in one piece after xx years.
I think most fasteners you get today from Porsche are not cadmium plated anymore. Cad has been outlawed for years. Maybe some special and obscure spec stuff is old stock, but most fasteners are normal specs. Note that some fasteners are originally already zinc plated (silver not yellow), not cadmium plated for good reasons, for example the coolant bridge bolts.
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Originally Posted by Leon Speed
I think most fasteners you get today from Porsche are not cadmium plated anymore. Cad has been outlawed for years. Maybe some special and obscure spec stuff is old stock, but most fasteners are normal specs. Note that some fasteners are originally already zinc plated (silver not yellow), not cadmium plated for good reasons, for example the coolant bridge bolts.
Cad is outlawed?

I should let my California cad plater know.


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I don't think I could bring myself to replate twenty-eight year old hardware.

Go ahead and replate it, it'll be fine.

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If you buy cheap you buy twice. Porsche oem is the way to go
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Go ahead and replate it, it'll be fine.

Yes, the plating corroded, the metal is still fine.

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What does it cost to have it plated? Is it weight dependent?
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Originally Posted by Speedtoys
Hell, in that case...go get em re-plated for $100.
I dont often quote myself..but when I do..

(Its by the batch mostly, unless you have cubic feet of stuff to do)




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