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Old 06-25-2012, 06:34 PM
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SOOO.... while trying to figure out my sensors for my mega squirt conversion i decided to check my timing. ya both cams are off 3 teeth (clockwise) from the pointers at TDC compression . i used my finger in the spark plug hole to find compression stroke (air blows out etc) and at TDC... off.....

how in the hell did that happen? looked good when it was on the engine stand and i rotated the engine my hand....... I'm using a porkensioner with a gates belt....

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Old 06-25-2012, 08:14 PM
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did you rotate it more than once? I think after you install the belt and rotate to -0 to check the timing, you must rotate two full turns and re-check all timing marks. I did this 3 times (total of 6 rotations) to confirm.
Sounds like someone either didnt lock the flywheel, and / or had the timing marks incorrect when they strung the belt. Good catch however.
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Ya I did it. I'm thinking the flywheel was not locked down tight ( did it on engine stand. All seems ok now.... Going to rotate a few more times
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I'm going to guess something moved when the belt was being installed. I know I always have to to it 3 times to get things right. grrr
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Rotating or jot rotating will not do this.
I had this happen to me before on the '83. A piece of the timing belt cover slid down the belt and wrapped itself around the crank pulley. Everytime the crank got to where the plastic piece was on the crank, it would slip slightly.
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after doing a complete rotation about 7 times, looks like the drivers cam is ATDC maybe 4 degrees, and passenger is about 6 ATDC till they are exactly on the mark..... do i need offset keyways? I'm not going to button this back up till i get the starter installed and try cranking it a few times that way.

just to be safe.
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The belt will stretch another ~2° degrees on the 1-4 (pass.) side once it settles in. I would say that one is still one tooth (7.5° crank) off.

Hard to say for sure until you spin the starter.
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As far as I know, the 16v timings always look off. As long as they are not kore than half a tooth off, it's accaptable. Offset keys are not factory spec but remember reading that others have used it in the past.
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ya they are not half off at all.



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