Antiseize on oil drain plugs?
#16
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Dan - I dunno. Fumoto (the maker) has been around for at least 12-13 years that I know. And I see they’ve got the thumbs-up (Genuine Part label) from Toyota, Mazda, Nissan, Isuzu, Subaru and other rice-burners which I assume are aluminum blocks. I know the one thing I felt I was “giving up” was a drain plug with a magnet in it, but… Now having the ability to change oil in a white leisure suit is priceless
#19
Burning Brakes
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I've replaced the drain plug with Fumoto on Saturday. A couple of things to keep in mind:
I've bought the valve in this link: http://www.qwikvalve.com/fumoto-f105s-valve.html Basically same valve as shown in pictures above, but with a plastic attachment to to connect vinyl tubing to - I figured it's a great idea to make oil change even less messy. Looking back, I should have purchased the valve with a metal attachment already fixed on the valve. Plastic attachment is nice and easy to put on, but is hard to remove - I guess I'll know next year if I can remove it without messing up how tight the valve sits on the oil pan...
Fumoto valve comes with its own blue colored gasket. Looks like its cork or something like that - it's rather soft. When I initially tightened the valve, I found that gasket split. Removed the valve and noticed that gasket was glued to the valve in one place. Not sure if this somehow caused the gasket to split... It was a bit of a dilemma if I should put back the original drain plug or go ahead with Fumoto valve with a Porsche gasket - Fumoto gasket is really wide and extends past the valve edges, Porsche one is much slimmer. I decided to see if I Porsche gasket would do the job and went with it. So far so good, but I'll keep checking oil level...
I've bought the valve in this link: http://www.qwikvalve.com/fumoto-f105s-valve.html Basically same valve as shown in pictures above, but with a plastic attachment to to connect vinyl tubing to - I figured it's a great idea to make oil change even less messy. Looking back, I should have purchased the valve with a metal attachment already fixed on the valve. Plastic attachment is nice and easy to put on, but is hard to remove - I guess I'll know next year if I can remove it without messing up how tight the valve sits on the oil pan...
Fumoto valve comes with its own blue colored gasket. Looks like its cork or something like that - it's rather soft. When I initially tightened the valve, I found that gasket split. Removed the valve and noticed that gasket was glued to the valve in one place. Not sure if this somehow caused the gasket to split... It was a bit of a dilemma if I should put back the original drain plug or go ahead with Fumoto valve with a Porsche gasket - Fumoto gasket is really wide and extends past the valve edges, Porsche one is much slimmer. I decided to see if I Porsche gasket would do the job and went with it. So far so good, but I'll keep checking oil level...
#20
Race Car
I'm not really a fan of those valves. Just another potential point of failure only to make an oil change job 30 seconds faster. Torque the stock drain plug properly with a new washer every time and never have any problems.
Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft
Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft
#21
Vegas, Baby!
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That valve looks like it's made of brass.
"BRASS IS IMCOMPATIBLE" with aluminum! per MIL SFD 889B (and notices 1,2 and 3 thereof) Dissimilar metals. Galvanic action will eat up the aluminum.
It's your engine, but I'd stick with the factory plug. There's a reason none of the OEM engine builders use these plugs.
I do have 50 plus years in metallurgy.
"BRASS IS IMCOMPATIBLE" with aluminum! per MIL SFD 889B (and notices 1,2 and 3 thereof) Dissimilar metals. Galvanic action will eat up the aluminum.
It's your engine, but I'd stick with the factory plug. There's a reason none of the OEM engine builders use these plugs.
I do have 50 plus years in metallurgy.
#22
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I've had good luck with Teflon thread sealing paste in the threads and on both faces of the sealing washer. It's slippery so I just snug the drain plug gently (15-20 lbs/ft only) and call it good. Seals great, with no worries about leakage.
The drain valves seem like a good idea, but... It's something that might get broken off in a shunt or by crap on the road. Plus, by the time the belly pans are off, removing a drain plug is the easiest part of the project.
The drain valves seem like a good idea, but... It's something that might get broken off in a shunt or by crap on the road. Plus, by the time the belly pans are off, removing a drain plug is the easiest part of the project.
#23
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That valve looks like it's made of brass.
"BRASS IS IMCOMPATIBLE" with aluminum! per MIL SFD 889B (and notices 1,2 and 3 thereof) Dissimilar metals. Galvanic action will eat up the aluminum.
It's your engine, but I'd stick with the factory plug. There's a reason none of the OEM engine builders use these plugs.
I do have 50 plus years in metallurgy.
"BRASS IS IMCOMPATIBLE" with aluminum! per MIL SFD 889B (and notices 1,2 and 3 thereof) Dissimilar metals. Galvanic action will eat up the aluminum.
It's your engine, but I'd stick with the factory plug. There's a reason none of the OEM engine builders use these plugs.
I do have 50 plus years in metallurgy.
#24
I have used the futmo on my cummins and have one on my murano. I should get one for sharky, hate the oil fountain that almost hits the wheel...
#25
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Changing the oil and filter in my Shark is easier than any car I've ever had or have.....just sayin'
#26
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Damn. Is there a paste or other thing you can put on the threads to keep the corrosion from happening?
#27
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I use a vaccum extractor - the type of thing used in boats. Pulls up all the oil through the dipstick tube.
The first few times I used it I pulled out all the oil and then removed the drain plug - not a drop came out. So now I don't even bother.
The first few times I used it I pulled out all the oil and then removed the drain plug - not a drop came out. So now I don't even bother.