Thoughts on vintage Porsche's
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I obviously enjoy both, so just saying.
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Havent had the 928 that long, and it a pita to pay for parts and do the needed maint. But,
I can just sit in it and get a thrill. Have to be driving the 944 to appreciate it.
I can just sit in it and get a thrill. Have to be driving the 944 to appreciate it.
#34
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With all due respect, my brother H, a late model 996 is faster than any stock 928 ever made. May not feel like it however, a 2002+ 996 is nearly a full second faster to 62mph and also has 7mph more up top than a manual 928 GTS.
I obviously enjoy both, so just saying.
I obviously enjoy both, so just saying.
Of course I wouldn't drive a Golf S, just saying. I drove a 993 two days ago. I like older cars, from the grunt of the 928 V8 to the growl of the air cooled 911s. Which is why I drive them and don't consider the Audi or Mercedes from 2012 to be much more than basic transportation with a nice interior.
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#35
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I find alot of people knock on the 928/944/968's just because they're "slow". I bought my 928 at 18 years old and you wouldn't believe the amount of flak i got for it. But i bought it because i love the whole car, not just because it's got a 5L in it. I think if the aftermarket quantity of parts were there for the 928 as much as it is for Mustangs, they'd be cheap to make "fast". But they're expensive to make power on because there's not much market for 928 performance parts, at least not compared to domestic muscle cars like the Mustang, Camaro, Firebird/Trans-Am.
Someday i'd like to get an XJ-S when i get into a career and start being able to afford maintaining my 928... I've always loved the look and elegance of the XJ-S, and i've never worked on a truly British car before, i hear they're wiring nightmares like the 928 is. I mean, just imagine cruising the Yorkshire Dales in an XJ-S, that's a dream for me.
Someday i'd like to get an XJ-S when i get into a career and start being able to afford maintaining my 928... I've always loved the look and elegance of the XJ-S, and i've never worked on a truly British car before, i hear they're wiring nightmares like the 928 is. I mean, just imagine cruising the Yorkshire Dales in an XJ-S, that's a dream for me.
#36
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Love driving the 928, but I have to admit I get as much enjoyment out of the 912E. Why limit yourself? Both cars are garage queens, the 928 more so. I drive it maybe twice a month. I'd like to have a 993 as well! Still looking for that barnfind 356
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So if you're interested in the newer cars but scared of the IMS/RMS issues just stick with 09 and newer.
As far as comparing a 928 to a Boxster it is like comparing Apples to Oranges...but we all know that already.
#38
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Zero to 60 and top speed are two numbers almost worthless in practice that have done more damage to making a car fun than anything else I can think of. Numbers games are for marketing, a handy thing to sell a car with, and its just so unfortunate that the general public latches on to it.
The presumption with numbers is that we the buyers have no ability to judge the merit of a car from our own experiences, or need some "backup" to our opinions. Unless you are racing those numbers don't matter, my 8.5 second Lincoln is not "deprived" vs some 5 second car, both get on the freeway just fine.
IMHO fast 0-60 just means you get to have fun for a shorter time.
That said, you don't have to leave a 928 stock, and blown or stroked not much is going to leave one in the dust.
The presumption with numbers is that we the buyers have no ability to judge the merit of a car from our own experiences, or need some "backup" to our opinions. Unless you are racing those numbers don't matter, my 8.5 second Lincoln is not "deprived" vs some 5 second car, both get on the freeway just fine.
IMHO fast 0-60 just means you get to have fun for a shorter time.
That said, you don't have to leave a 928 stock, and blown or stroked not much is going to leave one in the dust.
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What is "vintage"? I think it is relative to a person's age - and a place in time when they were impressionalble. For me, it is the 60's and 70's cars - cars that were relatively new when I first took an interest in cars during my pre-teens. I could also consider any car over 25 years old today as vintage. Will I consider my wife's 2011 Mini Cooper S vintage 25 years from now? I can't imagine it, but maybe. I'm sure the next generation will.
Owning a vintage car for me is a way to turn back time. I enjoy the opportunity to drive and care for a car from a different era, regardless of the make/model. I follow the cars on "Bring a Trailer" as much as I follow threads here. In fact, I was lusting after a mint low mileage 1972 Plymouth Gran Fury wagon featured on BAT a few weeks ago.
I also envision myself in a variety of vinatge cars, driving them in their intended environment. A 60's Ferrari screaming throught the Italian Alps, a Citroen DS cruising the streets of Paris, a 68 GTO dragging on Woodward, and my 84 928 Euro storming the Autobahn.
My 83 911SC was vintage to me by the fact that it was a throwback from modern cars in terms of engineering, mechanicals, and driving experience. Yet, it was reliable and capable, and could easily have beeen put into daily driver service. My 84 928 is also vintage in terms of age, and the fact that it has survived all these years releatively unscathed. Every time I look at it and drive it, it takes me back in time. However, IMHO the 928 was ahead of it's time in the late 70's and 80's in terms of engineering, comfort, and performance. So much so, that it can hold it's own today against many modern cars. For me, the best of both worlds.
Owning a vintage car for me is a way to turn back time. I enjoy the opportunity to drive and care for a car from a different era, regardless of the make/model. I follow the cars on "Bring a Trailer" as much as I follow threads here. In fact, I was lusting after a mint low mileage 1972 Plymouth Gran Fury wagon featured on BAT a few weeks ago.
I also envision myself in a variety of vinatge cars, driving them in their intended environment. A 60's Ferrari screaming throught the Italian Alps, a Citroen DS cruising the streets of Paris, a 68 GTO dragging on Woodward, and my 84 928 Euro storming the Autobahn.
My 83 911SC was vintage to me by the fact that it was a throwback from modern cars in terms of engineering, mechanicals, and driving experience. Yet, it was reliable and capable, and could easily have beeen put into daily driver service. My 84 928 is also vintage in terms of age, and the fact that it has survived all these years releatively unscathed. Every time I look at it and drive it, it takes me back in time. However, IMHO the 928 was ahead of it's time in the late 70's and 80's in terms of engineering, comfort, and performance. So much so, that it can hold it's own today against many modern cars. For me, the best of both worlds.
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Zero to 60 and top speed are two numbers almost worthless in practice that have done more damage to making a car fun than anything else I can think of. Numbers games are for marketing, a handy thing to sell a car with, and its just so unfortunate that the general public latches on to it.
Horsepower is the marketing numbers game because it 'in theory' trumps all of the measurements I just mentioned. Those performance statistics paint the real picture...imo
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I just drifted off into dreamland after you mentioned the silver stock OB. I dream of one...like having your favorite matchbox car from your childhood grow up with you.
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Just so we don't forget the sage words of ATB.... (Paul...are you listening) (this is just a quick thing I threw together...would be nice to have a black plaque with this text)..
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