928 broken timing belt help!
11-22-2011, 05:19 AM
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Blue,
It is not an airplane, but the 928 was designed as a world class car. It was to be on par with a Farrari and other top end sports cars. At the time Porsche was using state of the art materials and designs many of which have since been incorporated in modern cars. Still how many cars even today have a cooled glove box to keep your film cool - or maybe the real reason since the deisigners were german to keep a beer cool. Unlike the British who are handicapped by Lucus Electric and warm beer the Germans want their beer cool.
Ok so I joke, but that does not mean the car is any less than the best money could buy at the time. As such while the 928 is not beyond the average person working on it, the work has to be done just so. There are so many subtlies that are missed. Further the 928 was created at a time when the world was entering the computer revolution. The wiring - state of the art at the time - attempted to accomplish what is done today with signals and channels.
Even so the 928 remains one of the most addictive driving machines in the world. It will put a smile on your face for every mile you drive. And if well sorted out will be a reliable car. I have several of different years but still my favorite is the 78.
It is not an airplane, but the 928 was designed as a world class car. It was to be on par with a Farrari and other top end sports cars. At the time Porsche was using state of the art materials and designs many of which have since been incorporated in modern cars. Still how many cars even today have a cooled glove box to keep your film cool - or maybe the real reason since the deisigners were german to keep a beer cool. Unlike the British who are handicapped by Lucus Electric and warm beer the Germans want their beer cool.
Ok so I joke, but that does not mean the car is any less than the best money could buy at the time. As such while the 928 is not beyond the average person working on it, the work has to be done just so. There are so many subtlies that are missed. Further the 928 was created at a time when the world was entering the computer revolution. The wiring - state of the art at the time - attempted to accomplish what is done today with signals and channels.
Even so the 928 remains one of the most addictive driving machines in the world. It will put a smile on your face for every mile you drive. And if well sorted out will be a reliable car. I have several of different years but still my favorite is the 78.
11-22-2011, 11:44 PM
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More REALLY good advice.
Only if they have really excessive carbon buildup.
The only 16V interference motors are the LH2.2-based 84-86 Euro's (M28/21 and 22), and even then, early MY84 ones still used the older M28/11 pistons and are non-interference (cutoff VIN in the WSM for the change during '84).
And OP - the cheapest thing you can do right now is get the car towed back out of Riegel Tuning - sounds like they don't know 928's, and thus you'll be paying them insane rates to learn as they go, as well as make mistakes.
You seem to not be afraid of wrenching - put the car under a cover, read Rennlist for the winter, and buy the bits you need so that as soon as its warm enough outside (April?) you can tackle the job yourself. It can easily be knocked off in a weekend. Plus you can read about other things like rebuilding fuel distributors, using CIS gauge sets, adjusting WUR's and more.. most of which you'll likely need, and which you don't want to be paying a workshop to learn too!
As to the engine damage - one of the better known 79's on this list is the "very brown" car - its owner Jim tracks it, and he just waits until the belt breaks before changing it
(he's not careless - he knows 928's very well)
The only 16V interference motors are the LH2.2-based 84-86 Euro's (M28/21 and 22), and even then, early MY84 ones still used the older M28/11 pistons and are non-interference (cutoff VIN in the WSM for the change during '84).
And OP - the cheapest thing you can do right now is get the car towed back out of Riegel Tuning - sounds like they don't know 928's, and thus you'll be paying them insane rates to learn as they go, as well as make mistakes.
You seem to not be afraid of wrenching - put the car under a cover, read Rennlist for the winter, and buy the bits you need so that as soon as its warm enough outside (April?) you can tackle the job yourself. It can easily be knocked off in a weekend. Plus you can read about other things like rebuilding fuel distributors, using CIS gauge sets, adjusting WUR's and more.. most of which you'll likely need, and which you don't want to be paying a workshop to learn too!
As to the engine damage - one of the better known 79's on this list is the "very brown" car - its owner Jim tracks it, and he just waits until the belt breaks before changing it
(he's not careless - he knows 928's very well)
11-23-2011, 01:24 AM
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The early 16 valve is a rather simple engine and just throwing on a new cheap generic T-belt should only take a couple hours. You need not remove the radiator since you are going to run the the same waterpump if it is not seized. The only hard job is breaking loose the crank bolt. This is NOT fixing the car but simply getting it in a condition so it can run. Once running you can determine what else it really needs but you should be spending very little more to find out.
