LED Bulbs for GTS Gauge Illumination. Which one??
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Tony, Alex,
Ordered bulbs today, hope to have them installed this weekend along w getting the GTS running again.
That's the plan anyway.
Ordered bulbs today, hope to have them installed this weekend along w getting the GTS running again.
That's the plan anyway.
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Chuck,
Which one's did you order if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking at your linked page for the 194s and I see a big selection there. Did you order the "fat Boys" with the CANBUS cancellation chip?
Which one's did you order if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking at your linked page for the 194s and I see a big selection there. Did you order the "fat Boys" with the CANBUS cancellation chip?
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Alex,
I ended up ordering from Autoillumination as I've had good luck w them. I also wanted 194 bulbs that would match all the other "super white" bulbs I already have in the car.
Based on the dimensions that Ed wrote up, I ordered the following:
http://autolumination.com/images/aut...4sshs_w_wm.jpg
which are off this page
http://autolumination.com/194.htm
They are 194 Superstar Bulbs With Metal Heat Sink. 9mm x 24 which fit the size Ed specifies.
There are probably 2 or 3 other bulbs on that page that fit and will do the trick, but it's the one that Tracy (From autoillumination) recommended for gauges. They have a "wide" throw of light.
Again, Since I really wanted to match the bulbs that were there already, I ordered from them.
For you starting from scratch, I would order exactly what Ed specifies in his how to pages since you know it will work.
I ended up ordering from Autoillumination as I've had good luck w them. I also wanted 194 bulbs that would match all the other "super white" bulbs I already have in the car.
Based on the dimensions that Ed wrote up, I ordered the following:
http://autolumination.com/images/aut...4sshs_w_wm.jpg
which are off this page
http://autolumination.com/194.htm
They are 194 Superstar Bulbs With Metal Heat Sink. 9mm x 24 which fit the size Ed specifies.
There are probably 2 or 3 other bulbs on that page that fit and will do the trick, but it's the one that Tracy (From autoillumination) recommended for gauges. They have a "wide" throw of light.
Again, Since I really wanted to match the bulbs that were there already, I ordered from them.
For you starting from scratch, I would order exactly what Ed specifies in his how to pages since you know it will work.
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From the document I already referenced, I have the following notes related to the four cluster backlighting bulbs:
The bulbs I recommend (Super Bright LEDs WLED-WHP5) are 12.14 mm maximum diameter and 25.35 mm maximum length.
I know I tried a WLED-WHP9-T, which is 32.75 mm long. It doesn't fit.
I strongly recommend not using a bulb that exceeds the dimensions I noted. And I know that the bulb I recommended fits and is quite bright (almost too bright; it motivated me to design and build the PWM dimmer).
I'll be interested to see how those Autolumination bulbs that you ordered turn out when installed, Chuck. They should fit fine; light distribution pattern and/or reliability are probably the only things left to discover. Something about Autolumination that I've noted a number of times before is that they tend not to provide very comprehensive (or accurate) specs on their products, so you typically have to order a bunch of stuff to find out whether or not they're any good for your applications. And sometimes they do substitutions on what you order (without asking first) and give you something unsuitable for your application. That said, I do recommend some of their products (like for the pod switches).
Absolute maximum size bulb that will fit is 12.3 mm diameter, 30 mm long (note that a Super Bright LEDs WLED-WHP9-T will not fit).
I know I tried a WLED-WHP9-T, which is 32.75 mm long. It doesn't fit.
I strongly recommend not using a bulb that exceeds the dimensions I noted. And I know that the bulb I recommended fits and is quite bright (almost too bright; it motivated me to design and build the PWM dimmer).
I'll be interested to see how those Autolumination bulbs that you ordered turn out when installed, Chuck. They should fit fine; light distribution pattern and/or reliability are probably the only things left to discover. Something about Autolumination that I've noted a number of times before is that they tend not to provide very comprehensive (or accurate) specs on their products, so you typically have to order a bunch of stuff to find out whether or not they're any good for your applications. And sometimes they do substitutions on what you order (without asking first) and give you something unsuitable for your application. That said, I do recommend some of their products (like for the pod switches).
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I use the cool white, don't like the warm white. You can see most all info and pics in my original post
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-looooong.html
Awww Chuck....you never lit the Fan ****![Frown](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
BTW, Ed..Very nice documentation...and thanks for the honorable mention
Did you have to modify the #74 bulbs for the pod switches? I replaced a couple of those last week as well and I take a dremel with a barrel sander attachment and shave the base some so they will fit. I'd rather screw up a bulb than a switch.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-looooong.html
Awww Chuck....you never lit the Fan ****
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BTW, Ed..Very nice documentation...and thanks for the honorable mention
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Did you have to modify the #74 bulbs for the pod switches? I replaced a couple of those last week as well and I take a dremel with a barrel sander attachment and shave the base some so they will fit. I'd rather screw up a bulb than a switch.
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From the document I already referenced, I have the following notes related to the four cluster backlighting bulbs:
The bulbs I recommend (Super Bright LEDs WLED-WHP5) are 12.14 mm maximum diameter and 25.35 mm maximum length.
I know I tried a WLED-WHP9-T, which is 32.75 mm long. It doesn't fit.
I strongly recommend not using a bulb that exceeds the dimensions I noted. And I know that the bulb I recommended fits and is quite bright (almost too bright; it motivated me to design and build the PWM dimmer).
I'll be interested to see how those Autolumination bulbs that you ordered turn out when installed, Chuck. They should fit fine; light distribution pattern and/or reliability are probably the only things left to discover. Something about Autolumination that I've noted a number of times before is that they tend not to provide very comprehensive (or accurate) specs on their products, so you typically have to order a bunch of stuff to find out whether or not they're any good for your applications. And sometimes they do substitutions on what you order (without asking first) and give you something unsuitable for your application. That said, I do recommend some of their products (like for the pod switches).
The bulbs I recommend (Super Bright LEDs WLED-WHP5) are 12.14 mm maximum diameter and 25.35 mm maximum length.
I know I tried a WLED-WHP9-T, which is 32.75 mm long. It doesn't fit.
I strongly recommend not using a bulb that exceeds the dimensions I noted. And I know that the bulb I recommended fits and is quite bright (almost too bright; it motivated me to design and build the PWM dimmer).
I'll be interested to see how those Autolumination bulbs that you ordered turn out when installed, Chuck. They should fit fine; light distribution pattern and/or reliability are probably the only things left to discover. Something about Autolumination that I've noted a number of times before is that they tend not to provide very comprehensive (or accurate) specs on their products, so you typically have to order a bunch of stuff to find out whether or not they're any good for your applications. And sometimes they do substitutions on what you order (without asking first) and give you something unsuitable for your application. That said, I do recommend some of their products (like for the pod switches).
Yes, I picked the bulbs based on your dimensions, making sure they fell within those specks. They are a little narrower and shorter, so I knew they'd fit.
Again, the only reason I went w autoillumi brand is the fact that I could match the "hue" of the white. If I was going from scratch, I'd just order the exact bulbs that you and Keith listed. For anyone tackling this now, I'd recomend they do just that. I was already down this road and committed.
So far (knock on wood) the autoillumination bulbs have been ok in both cars.
The 79 bulbs from them (as well as the Jager gauge kit) have been in there for about 5 years now. I ordered more than I needed this go round, just as I did last time as some have been know to arrive D.O.A.
Will report back w feedback and pics when complete.
Thx again!
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I use the cool white, don't like the warm white. You can see most all info and pics in my original post
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-looooong.html
Awww Chuck....you never lit the Fan ****![Frown](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
BTW, Ed..Very nice documentation...and thanks for the honorable mention
Did you have to modify the #74 bulbs for the pod switches? I replaced a couple of those last week as well and I take a dremel with a barrel sander attachment and shave the base some so they will fit. I'd rather screw up a bulb than a switch.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-looooong.html
Awww Chuck....you never lit the Fan ****
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BTW, Ed..Very nice documentation...and thanks for the honorable mention
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Did you have to modify the #74 bulbs for the pod switches? I replaced a couple of those last week as well and I take a dremel with a barrel sander attachment and shave the base some so they will fit. I'd rather screw up a bulb than a switch.
I agree, The warm whites look a little too yellow to me as well. I like the way my superwhites look. According to autoillumination, they are 7000K. Cool blues are 8000k (bluer) and natural whites are 6000K. (more pure white)
Dont' ask me what all that S##T means, I just know I like the way the superwhites look!
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No, I didn't do the fan ****. It wasnt a job I wanted to tackle at the time and I took the easy way out.
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I had to modify the #74 bulbs for the pod switches on the GTS as well. Filed them down with a small nail file until they fit. I will tell you that the #74s fit right in w no mods whatsoever on the 79. Weird, but I guess there was a change somewhere down the road in the bulb housing??!!
Thx to you and Ed for blazing the trail on this project. It's a great mod to bring these cars into 2011!!
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Chuck, I've been on the fence about doing this mod on my GTS, so I look forward to seeing yours at 3rd Coast. Oh, and if it's not done by then we will expect you to skip dinner and the parking lot session to get it done while your there. Or else your focked!
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Jim,
Everything else on your car has been modified, you need to do it!!
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