dan davies

porsche 996 soon (911) a nice car , not sure why tho,, my old 928 would kick the total **** out of a 911

Jon B.

So, you are going to a 996? Why unless it's a C4S or Turbo?

pcar928fan

I am with Jon, if it is not a Turbo and your 928 is an S3 or newer there is no reason to get a 996!

hacker-pschorr

I've been pricing out 996's as a replacement to my Audi for winter driving.

pcar928fan

Oh hell yea! To replace something other than a 928...FOR SURE and a C4 for the winter would sure be a hoot! My problem with virtually all the 996's is that the interior looks like it came out of a Kia...some of the cheapest crap looking materials I have ever seen in a car (and that includes my '80 Triumph Spitfire which was WORLDS better than the 996/986's) and certainly they have NO PLACE in a car as expensive as a 911!!!

hacker-pschorr

Tell me about it, then you see people crying about how bad the interior is in the ZO6 / ZR1.

All the performance of a 911 Turbo for the price of an entry level *** dragger......but the seats suck

inactiveuser1

You do hear some complaining about interiors of the ZR1 but probably from people that paid more for a sports car that got blown off by a ZR1.With 638hp in the ZR1 I wouldn't care about the interior.
I agree better off keeping the 928 unless you are going to a 996TT or 997TT

laneskelton

996 and 928 are completely different cars, and the 996 is a great car. The 996 is very fast and light feeling and reliable. To those comparing a 996 interior to a corvette...You are nuts! The Corvette interiors are 10x cheaper feeling that any 996/986. keep the 928 and get a 996 like I did.

Darklands

Early boxters and 996 without full leather option look really cheap inside.
Every vw or audi has better interieur.
Porsche has a hard plastic for the dash and so on.

Landseer

Boxster and 996 IMS bearing failure situation is ridiculous.
Panorama this month, tech section, the tech expert recommended budgeting for a new engine with purchase of a used car.

Black Sea RD

Don't forget that the 996/997.1 GT3s and TTs that have the different engine in them also have problems with their coolant lines blowing off the engine and dumping coolant onto the rear tires while your driving.

Many 996/997.1 owners say that the IMS and coolant line problems are over blown but they have made me shy away from them. A local 996 TT owner had the coolant lines blow during a Porsche track event not too long ago. We had talked about the coolant line problem shortly before that.

At least with the 928 most major problems have been found and addressed.

Cheers,

mickster

Last night saw a 99 C4 Cabriolet with 70K for sale at a Porsche Dealer for less than $30K--full leather-supple leather...shows where the values are going...

There is a place in Cleveland, Georgia, Flat 6, who install the LN Engineering IMS fix. The cost of the labor is about $3500 (for DIY the part is about $500).

It seems to me this is required maintenance upon purchase (along with a thorough PPI) and I don't even know if this works!

Makes TBF seem tame by comparison (well at least the costs to retrofit a Porken or Constantine clamp...)

Black Sea RD

TBF is as expensive, if not more so, than replacing a 996 engine.

At least with the 996 engine you can get a Porsche replacement with warranty and upgraded IMS and other internals. If one buys an extended insurance policy that covers the drive train, this cost will be covered as it has been for some lucky enough who paid for this coverage.

Also, good used 996 engines are more plentiful in the used parts industry.

Unfortunately not so with the 928 engines. No more blocks are available from Porsche even if you wanted to spend the money for one.

mickster

Sorry Constantine--I should have been more clear---yes TBF will wipe an engine (of course if it happens in late November/December you can get another one from 928 Int'l at 1/2 price-if the sale happens again) and that is costly.

What I should have said is the preventive measures for a 928 are far less expensive than that of a 996.

Also the newer IMS bearings are failing too according to the site that makes the replacement:
http://www.lnengineering.com/ims.html

Michael

morganabowen

I drove 928s from 2000 to 2010, a 1982 928s, and a 1991 S4. I loved both of them and they, like most used cars required preventative maintenance. After selling the S4 last year, I was shopping for another 928 when I stumbled onto a 2000 996 C4. I decided to test drive and had a really fun time. No, it does not have the torque of the 928 or that wonderful rumble sound, but it is light nimble and fun to drive. The all wheel drive is amazing. Both cars have advantages and disadvantages, but they are Porsches and remarkable cars

If the economy gets better, I plan on buying another 928 so that I can both