Differences between a 79 euro and 79 us spec
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I just recvd ownership of a 79 928 (my 2nd 928), the PO told me that it's a euro...I was just wondering what would tell me right off the bat if it is or not.
The car already has the ansa exhaust, there is a red light in the bumper, and the controls on the dash are in german, I was wondering if there are any other key things that I should look for.
Any help is appreciated.
I also need a fuel pump for the car, looks like the external pump... I was also wondering the specs for the pumps...looks like my aftermarket 105gph would work.
The car already has the ansa exhaust, there is a red light in the bumper, and the controls on the dash are in german, I was wondering if there are any other key things that I should look for.
Any help is appreciated.
I also need a fuel pump for the car, looks like the external pump... I was also wondering the specs for the pumps...looks like my aftermarket 105gph would work.
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Probably Euro, need VIN and engine number (front of V area on a stamped flat area).
Not much different mechanically from USA version IIRC.
Others can answer on fuel pump, but my experience is that keeping the car as stock as possible with stock parts is a good thing until you get it sorted-out and have a greater plan for developing it further.
If you click on this thread link
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...e-3rd-5th.html
scan through for rennlister "AO" --- his signature line includes links to PDF's that have very good and important information for your car. Tech spec manuals are a good starting place, choose the earliest manual.
Not much different mechanically from USA version IIRC.
Others can answer on fuel pump, but my experience is that keeping the car as stock as possible with stock parts is a good thing until you get it sorted-out and have a greater plan for developing it further.
If you click on this thread link
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...e-3rd-5th.html
scan through for rennlister "AO" --- his signature line includes links to PDF's that have very good and important information for your car. Tech spec manuals are a good starting place, choose the earliest manual.
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I don't know if this is the right #, but I happen to have the title with me, 9289011062...I understand that our vins here in the states have 17 letters and #'s, I will look for the VIN on the car when I get home later and post if this is not the right one. The only other vehicle that I've had that had a VIN like this was a 67 mustang coupe.
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Thanks for the help.
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turn signals on the fenders behind the front wheels, H4 headlights, the rear lamp in the bumper, dash in german, no side marker lights in front of front wheels/behind rear wheels (usually have add on's, which look totally out of place and very non-Porsche), 16" phone dials instead of 15" (if original) - slight power increase over us spec, 229 hp vs. 219 hp - both USA and euro's had CIS for 78 and 79 -
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thanks for the help guys...really appreciate it, that helps me know what direction I want to take the car in...since it's a euro it'll be an original rebuild.
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turn signals on the fenders behind the front wheels, H4 headlights, the rear lamp in the bumper, dash in german, no side marker lights in front of front wheels/behind rear wheels (usually have add on's, which look totally out of place and very non-Porsche), 16" phone dials instead of 15" (if original) - slight power increase over us spec, 229 hp vs. 219 hp - both USA and euro's had CIS for 78 and 79 -
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i thought so as well (i own a 79 euro, and had always said it was 240), but questioned myself and checked 928 Specialists, they have it at 229(net, 240 may be gross)...either way, a moderate increase over US spec - (i upgraded to a m28/11 anyway, so it doesn't apply to mine anymore
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The US cars have 16" pd's too. The wheels varied as to whether a 5 sp or A/T. The manuals typically had the 16" phone dials, while the autos had the 15" wheels. There were exceptions based on factory orders, but mostly that was the case.
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(most of the OB's i've seen that were US spec had 15" dials when they still had original wheels on them, and i thought i had seen some piece of lit. somewhere long ago that spec'd 15's on the US cars/16's on euro's - i'm open to correction, however
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I don't know if this is the right #, but I happen to have the title with me, 9289011062...I understand that our vins here in the states have 17 letters and #'s, I will look for the VIN on the car when I get home later and post if this is not the right one. The only other vehicle that I've had that had a VIN like this was a 67 mustang coupe.
15" phone dial rims were most common in '80-81 4.5L automatics. Earlier '78-79 models usually had 16" but customers complained that 225/50-16 Pirelli P7 tires were too expensive to replace and thus cheaper 215/55-15 option using Goodyear tires was introduced.
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I don't know if this is the right #, but I happen to have the title with me, 9289011062...I understand that our vins here in the states have 17 letters and #'s, I will look for the VIN on the car when I get home later and post if this is not the right one. The only other vehicle that I've had that had a VIN like this was a 67 mustang coupe.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help.
Based on tech spec book, if VIN corresponds to chassis number, you may have a digit transposed.
9289011062
should be formatted for 79 as...
928910XXXX
or in your case probably...
9289101062
Be interested in what you find on this.
HP was rated at 240 ROW; 230 USA ---- all being CIS
USA went to 231 later on 4.5L with onset of L-jet fuel injection.
(according to tech spec books, again, referenced under AO's signature line)
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Landseer, you're correct in that I transposed the digits.
the car has h4 headlights, 16" pd's, no corner markers, red lamp in the bumper, dash is in german...I'm pretty confident at this point that it's a euro, I'll go do some research on the vin and see what comes up.
The car is an auto
but it's better than nothing...miss my 82 5 spd.
Thanks for the help
the car has h4 headlights, 16" pd's, no corner markers, red lamp in the bumper, dash is in german...I'm pretty confident at this point that it's a euro, I'll go do some research on the vin and see what comes up.
The car is an auto
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Thanks for the help
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The fuel pump MUST be high pressure NOT high volume. The CIS injection needs the correct pressure to function since all mixture controls operate on fuel pressure. Do a bit of reading about CIS it will help you figure out the car.