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Old 04-12-2012, 03:37 AM
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1 - headlight washer line
2 - Carbon canister
5 - 'Y' connection
4 - washer fluid reservoir

Edit: Yes, (R) wheel well.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:40 AM
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right wheel is correct location
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UH..if the smell is at the back of the car i doubt it is coming from the Y pipe in the front?
Only smells when it is running and mostly smells at the back of the car.
...unless your fans are running?
Liquids drip down and smells drift downwind.


perhaps a crack in the cross over pipe that vents one side of the tank to the other during fueling?

The seal around the fuel level sender "nut" in the trunk area is bad..and perhaps the fire seal above it in the trunk area has come un seated?

Over fill tank and lines??


nice picture Maine!
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Originally Posted by worf928
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I always, always, always, do the above. And, I too, have caught small leaks. Regardless of whether you've got new fuel lines, always do the pressurized leak test with the FP relay bypassed. The injector o-rings can leak if you've just put in the rails and/or you might not have tightened-down one of the line couplings enough.

Fuel leaks are no joke.
I'm about to do this on my 83 - how do you jumper the fuel relay to pressurize the system? I imagine remove the relay and use a jumper wire to power up the pump, which 2 plugs? Thanks.
Old 04-12-2012, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Aloysius
I'm about to do this on my 83 - how do you jumper the fuel relay to pressurize the system? I imagine remove the relay and use a jumper wire to power up the pump, which 2 plugs? Thanks.
Get a 2-or-so-inch length of 10 or 12 gauge wire. At each end of the wire, crimp-on a spade terminal that's the same size as the male pins on the relay. That's your jumper wire.

Pull the fuel pump relay and look at the back. It should look just like the picture below. Locate the 87 pin and the 30 pin/terminal; the back of the relay has the pin numbers on it. Then locate the female terminals for those two male terminals in the fuse panel relay socket from which you pulled the relay. Look carefully. Be exact. Remember that the relay was probably not 'right-side-up' in the panel.

Plug in your jumper wire FIRST into the female terminal for pin 87. THEN plug the other end of the wire into the terminal for pin 30. Always do it in that order. Not the reverse. Pin 30 is 12v power so that's what you want plugged in last. If you plug it in first then the other end of the jumper is hot while you are fumbling with it to get it plugged in. Bad Juju that.
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I use a long length of heavy cable (to avoid voltage drop) with spade terminals at one end and a heavy duty switch at the other.

A long lead means you get the convenience and safety of turning on and off close to fuel pumps if you want to test and listen, and close to any area you want to observe for leaks, which allows quicker shut off.

Plug in with the switch off .. and then switch on and off to to test when you need to.
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Originally Posted by Dave928S
I use a long length of heavy cable (to avoid voltage drop) with spade terminals at one end and a heavy duty switch at the other.
That is most definitely a better 'jumper wire.'

Note to self: Make one
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Originally Posted by worf928
That is most definitely a better 'jumper wire.'

Note to self: Make one
idea. "Gut" an old relay leaving the tabs installed and attach the wires to the appropriate 2 terminals. Its always a PITA fumbling around with 2 spade connectors trying to get them orientated and in the correct holes while you hold up the wooden fuse panel cover with your head, in the middle of a cold, windy, rainy night in the parking lot of a gas station.
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Originally Posted by Tony
idea. "Gut" an old relay leaving the tabs installed and attach the wires to the appropriate 2 terminals. Its always a PITA fumbling around with 2 spade connectors trying to get them orientated and in the correct holes while you hold up the wooden fuse panel cover with your head, in the middle of a cold, windy, rainy night in the parking lot of a gas station.
Good idea ... I might try that and add a soldered on 'handle' for easy removal.
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Hi MainePorsche,

Can you send details of all other numbered items in this great pic. I have noticed fuel smell and usually only when I have completely filled the tank. If I leave sitting for a small period of time the cabin has strong fuel smell and the fuel smell also seems to be coming from the front right of car. Cannot detect any fuel vapours from rear of car and cannot see any obvious fuel leaks. I am guessing it is probably a broken Y-piece so will pull the wheel and inner wheel arch guards out and check. Great pic BTW. Very informative.

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.......and here is a pic of my failed Y-connector. I am going to go down the path of a brass T connector and some barbed fittings. I saw an example of such a fix here in Rennlist. Looked like a more permanent replacement versus another plastic piece. So off the the plumbing suppliers this morning :-)

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Originally Posted by Tony
idea. "Gut" an old relay leaving the tabs installed and attach the wires to the appropriate 2 terminals. Its always a PITA fumbling around with 2 spade connectors trying to get them orientated and in the correct holes while you hold up the wooden fuse panel cover with your head, in the middle of a cold, windy, rainy night in the parking lot of a gas station.
I'd like to see a pic of this set up wjen completed. As one who has never cannibalized a relay would be good to see.

Dave, great idea there! Besides being able to remotely turn the connection on and off while you are back near the fuel pump I can see it as a safe way to do test from a distance is fire is a concern. Looks like you used some heavy gauge speaker wire.



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