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Old 04-09-2011, 11:10 PM
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Default "R Gruppe" 928 Feasibility

It may seem like I'm crazy, but I have REALLY been toying with thoughts of buying a '73 or earlier 911 tub and doing a "R Gruppe" style 911. Huge fenders and all. RSR or 934 style.

Which got me thinking about that sort of thing for a 928. What if you took an OB or Euro S and turned it into a flared fendered, huge tired, super loud exhaust havin' maniac 928? Obviously keeping it super "retro" and not too many hints of new age stuff. So, no S4+ cars obviously.

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Been a few canidates for exactly that as of late. OB's with huge hips.
Old 04-10-2011, 01:27 AM
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Cha-Ching is what I think... Just look at my race car! Built on an '80 EURO S... talk about big fenders and all!!!
Old 04-10-2011, 01:28 AM
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while stock 928's are not exactly "narrow" there are several wide bodies out there.....
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The early 911 w/ blown out fenders and such is NOT GOING TO BE CHEAP EITHER though!
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I have been saying this for awhile now.

The only problem is to stay true to the Porsche type mods like the 911 R Gruppe guys do. It would be a bit difficult since there weren't many "go fast" bits and pieces that Porsche made for the 928. So the temptation would be to do American style "hot-rod" mods as many do.

Thinking early Euro 5 speed version, with a tasteful rear seat delete using a nice carpet set like the current GT3 cars, a small rear fender massage to put bigger wheels/tires on, period correct Recaro race seats and a few other tasteful mods that would look like Porsche would have done. Start putting in large sub-woofers and stereos and such and it won't work.

Biggest problem would be the wheels since the five spoke Fuch wheel just doesn't work on the 928. So taking a cue from their 1984 Euro Daytona racer they made, a set of period BBS mesh style wheels would probably be the trick.

Then finish it off in a cool color.

Again the problem would be to stay to a correct time period and not put newer parts on it from newer years. Like say a S4 wing on an older S body.

To do this correctly would take time, vision and some good money. Another requirement is to have the whole car look exceptionally clean with no weak areas visually.

I know it would be an oddity since I don't believe it has been done correctly yet.

Good luck if you do it.
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Time and money aren't on my side unfortunately. I figure someone will get around to it though.
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Hi Jon,

If you are planning the 911 R Gruppe build like you want you sure won't have any of either.

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Street legal gutted and minamized 928 would be nice. (former 911R style owner here). RatRod 928 ? was cheaper for me to Mod the 911 than to go back to stock, can you do that w/ a 928?
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I don't think the kind of parts are available for the 928. Not anywhere like they are for the 911.
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Originally Posted by JG928S4
Street legal gutted and minamized 928 would be nice. (former 911R style owner here). RatRod 928 ? was cheaper for me to Mod the 911 than to go back to stock, can you do that w/ a 928?
Rat Rod to me refers to that movement where the car looks like a rusty heap of parts but is in fact a well executed hot rod made to look like a collection of odd bits and pieces with a lot of patina with fake rusty areas and such painted on.

There are already 928s out there that have gotten the stripped out treatment with a bolt in cage, loud exhaust and some funky add on bits that could be candidates for the Rat Rod look. Not all are well executed though and some are just Ratty Rods.

The R Gruppe treatment is different IMHO. Like Jon said, it would be very difficult to do correctly with a 928. I already have put together such a car in my head with some of the styling cues already mentioned in my first post. But it will not be cheap and finding the right car to begin with would be difficult.

I would love to do one for someone who would be willing to though. It would be a real different R Gruppe car and one that I don't believe exists yet. It would be great to put it together and show up at an R Gruppe meeting in California and see what the founders of the R Gruppe would say.



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