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Old 12-25-2010, 10:50 AM
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This green car appears cosmetically preserved.
Not sure of its history.
I sure like the early cars.


Value equations are so different amongst us!
A personal equation.
Complicated, with all kinds of variables.
Some of us have god-awful amounts of money invested, and consider it investment.
Some consider it throw-away money.
Agreement won't happen any time soon, will it?

It seems to be the same throughout the car world.
Old 12-25-2010, 11:15 AM
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I heard something bad said about GTSs....

---------smashes a beer bottle on the edge of the table... breaks it open, and begins flailling the bottle-----------

Do you want some of this??
Old 12-25-2010, 01:31 PM
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You really can't throw a GTS in to the mix when talking about this car. There were only 400 GTS's ever imported to the US and they were the very last and best of the breed (IMHO and that of most others looking to buy a 928).

A 35k mile GTS would be a low-ish mile GTS, but it would still only bring like $45k-$50 probably and that only if it had pretty well documented history too.

I like this car, but just think it is probably about a $18k - $22k car, not a $26k car, and maybe the seller knows that and is asking $26k in hopes of illiciting a $20k offer...
Old 12-25-2010, 01:42 PM
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Nice car. If it were a silver / pascha Euro it would be perfect. LOL
Old 12-25-2010, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by djurek
Nice car. If it were a silver / pascha Euro it would be perfect. LOL
there's been a nice one of those floating around on ebay lately that looks pretty good. It's a 79.
Old 12-25-2010, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pcar928fan
You really can't throw a GTS in to the mix when talking about this car. There were only 400 GTS's ever imported to the US and they were the very last and best of the breed (IMHO and that of most others looking to buy a 928).
How many 78's with this color combo were imported?

I'm honestly curious, does anyone know?

First year of production means just as much as final year and in many cases more so. A 1953 Vette is absolutely one of the worst Corvette's ever made. The 54's are not much better, that doesn't hurt the value.

Originally Posted by pcar928fan
A 35k mile GTS would be a low-ish mile GTS, but it would still only bring like $45k-$50 probably and that only if it had pretty well documented history too.
This is where I shake my head in confusion. A GTS with similar mileage (or even similar mileage per year) IMO is not any more or less valuable to me than this car.

Originally Posted by pcar928fan
I like this car, but just think it is probably about a $18k - $22k car, not a $26k car, and maybe the seller knows that and is asking $26k in hopes of illiciting a $20k offer...

Seriously? It's not worth $26k but $22k is reasonable?

C'mon James, this is getting silly.
Old 12-25-2010, 03:12 PM
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seriously....everyone loves to compare these cars to corvettes (which i usually hate) yet, in this case, I must say that this '78 is equivalent to a '58 vette in terms of the lineage of the vehicles..."but that's twenty years of difference!?" some may say....however 20 years ago, a '58 vette in similar condition wouldve fetched around 30-40k, and now they go for upwards of 100k....

something else to consider- the next generation of car collectors is growing increasingly fond of European cars... the kids that have posters of a 911 twin turbo or Audi R8 in their bedroom will one day be drawn to the heritage of the 928....much in the same way a kid growing up in the 80's who loved GTO's and Firebirds lusts after the old 'vettes.... i know this is apples and oranges, especially in my book, but tastes evolve, and one day old german cars are going to be at the level of old american steel
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I love the 78, spoiler-free cars.
Am converting S-cars to that look.

I loose interest with the "progression" of the car through the years.
Kind of like the difference between an early GTO or Gransport Buick and the 70's models. Give me the 65 any day of the week.

The design attractiveness points make sense to me. Mechanically though, there is a huge disconnect in my view. The early vettes were very rough and unsophisticated, even terrible, whereas the early 928 may actually have been the peak of nimbleness within the marque. Minor suspension and brake upgrades can improve it, too.

There are style and performance reasons for the 78 or spoiler-free S cars to be viewed as very relevant. In my value equation they are superior to the later stuff.
Old 12-25-2010, 03:22 PM
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They must have made a lot of these in this color because we seem to see them on the market quite regularly!

BTW, $5k would be 20%...that is a pretty big chunk to drop off the asking price of a car from an individual I think.
Old 12-25-2010, 06:17 PM
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Anyone take a look what late sixties and early seveties hot cars go for recently? For example Lamborghini Miura has more than doubled its price in past few years. There is simple reason for it. People who were 10-15 years old when Miura's were new wanted them badly back then but could only dream about them. They could not afford them when they were 25 or 30 but they sure do now when they are 55-60. Reason is that their parents have died recently and they have inherited more money than any previous generation ever. Now they spend that $$$ into things they wanted when they were young. This same thing will happen over and over again to new generation of people and later model cars. Next things to go up are Ferrari 512BB and early eighties Lambo Countach. They are around 100-150k now and will be 200k+ in few years. Early Countach has already started its quick upward movement. Also early 930 in original condition will go up quickly in next few years. Early 928 will follow this same trend but only those which are in top condition. So not just any '79 MY with later S model engine and S4 interior will do. Everything has to be original and in good condition. So its high time to collect all those accident free '78's which still have all original bits and pieces and store them. In few years its too late unless one is willing to pay a lot compared to todays prices.
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Originally Posted by delisedesign
something else to consider- the next generation of car collectors is growing increasingly fond of European cars...
Yup
I've been saying for a while now the next boom in car value is going to be the 70's and 80's super-cars like the Countach. I don't see them going for the obscene money some of the MOPAR vehicles did, but prices are going to spike. Expect to see 928's (especially the early ones) getting caught up in the frenzy.

That is assuming a loaf of bread isn't $1,000 any time soon

Originally Posted by pcar928fan
They must have made a lot of these in this color because we seem to see them on the market quite regularly!
After my last post I was thinking the same thing. I sure hope so because I would love to pick up one just like this with closer to 90,000 miles and an automatic.
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
AFAIK, there has never been an EPA regulation in any state requiring a car to pass emissions beyond what it was capable of doing when new.

Also, more and more states are dropping emissions requirements for older cars because they simply cannot afford to do it anymore.
EPA is federal, does what it wants regardless of what the state wants. In TX right now EPA is stepping in to decide some plant licensing type thing taking the job away from the state.

Federal law says no emissions related items may be removed or tampered with. Right now many states offer a loophole via not requiring an inspection. That could easily be changed, and many currently exempt cars would be off the road.

I hope this car finds a good home, and as a practical matter have no interest in what it sells for. Speculation on price is purely for amusement.

If its really nice, $12k to $16k, providing the seller has plenty of time to sell it in, as in months to years.
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Sellers do not determine the market price for anything - buyers do.

While I hear a lot of whining on this thread in support of the $26k clean 78 928, I don't see anyone cracking open their checkbook.

Mileage: Time capsule cars must have under 10k miles on them, preferably under 3k miles. That means, original tires, brake pads and wiper blades. This drives the value through the roof. Low mileage examples must be under 30k miles. Originality is still demanded. Over 30k miles to 100k is just a low use car, nothing much of value addition except maybe a thou or so.

Everyone would like to dream of having one of the low mileage cars, but few have the floor space, trailer, time, energy to support it in the way it needs to be supported.
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Originally Posted by danglerb
EPA is federal, does what it wants regardless of what the state wants. In TX right now EPA is stepping in to decide some plant licensing type thing taking the job away from the state.

Federal law says no emissions related items may be removed or tampered with. Right now many states offer a loophole via not requiring an inspection. That could easily be changed, and many currently exempt cars would be off the road.

I hope this car finds a good home, and as a practical matter have no interest in what it sells for. Speculation on price is purely for amusement.

If its really nice, $12k to $16k, providing the seller has plenty of time to sell it in, as in months to years.
On a related note, there are states which are pushing to get clunkers off the road as well. Some state legislation has moved forward in progressive states that would make it very difficult to drive a car > 30 years old without cats on it. So far, I think the legislation on clunkers has been watered down, or defeated so that it's not an issue, but eventually some place like CA is going to make it nearly impossible to actually drive a vintage car like a 64 Mustang on a regular basis. Through a program of limited use, or restricted access, a state will make it very difficult to register, or insure vintage cars.
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Originally Posted by docmirror
....While I hear a lot of whining on this thread in support of the $26k clean 78 928, I don't see anyone cracking open their checkbook. ...
Gee Doc, do you think it has anything to do with the fact that everyone on here already has a 928? I think there are plenty of buyers out there for a car such as this, in the relative price range the seller is asking. I know I'd be one of them if I didn't already have one that closely fits the bill.
The seller and buyer both set the price. While sellers can ask anything they want, buyers can offer anything they want. It takes both. Just ask Chuck Z with Kermit. Sellers can wait years for the right buyer.


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