Changing front shift rod
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Hi, I need to change the 'front shift rod' on my '80 928 (it is a bit bended). Is the part number '3' in the following schema:
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Two questions:
1.- Is there a way to remove the front guide rod without having to remove the Torque tube?.
2.- (if not) To take apart the torque tube do I have to remove the transmission also?
Thanks!.
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Two questions:
1.- Is there a way to remove the front guide rod without having to remove the Torque tube?.
2.- (if not) To take apart the torque tube do I have to remove the transmission also?
Thanks!.
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Have you considered the new-designed shifter? It eliminates the front rod by mounting to the frame of the tunnel and having its own integral pivot joint.
Easy install. You can tuck the old front rod to the side and leave it in-place.
Easy install. You can tuck the old front rod to the side and leave it in-place.
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You can remove the front rod without removing the Ttube. But I warn you it id a major PIA. You havelots of stuff in the way, exhaust, sheilds, and a body brace that have to be removed. Then you have to remove the clutch, to get to the upper Ttube bolts so it can be seperated from the bellhousing. Then you go to the rear of the car and remove the two transaxle bolts. You can then push the Ttube transaxle assemble several inches backand angle the front of the Ttube down. There is enough room to to ge the job done, but it is not easy. You can guess how I came to know this. If I ever have to do it again I would go with the new design shifter that Landseer mentioned, sadly it did not exist when I had to do mine.
Paul
1980 Euro S Red/Blk Lea
Paul
1980 Euro S Red/Blk Lea
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Hi, I need to change the 'front shift rod' on my '80 928 (it is a bit bended). Is the part number '3' in the following schema:
![](http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7509/gearshiftschema.jpg)
Two questions:
1.- Is there a way to remove the front guide rod without having to remove the Torque tube?.
2.- (if not) To take apart the torque tube do I have to remove the transmission also?
Thanks!.
![](http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7509/gearshiftschema.jpg)
Two questions:
1.- Is there a way to remove the front guide rod without having to remove the Torque tube?.
2.- (if not) To take apart the torque tube do I have to remove the transmission also?
Thanks!.
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1984 and earlier did have a little kink in them yes.
Changing the rod without removing the TT/Transmission is only possible on 1978 and possibly some 79s.
Otherwise, as stated, contact ROG100 and get the new design and forget about it.
Changing the rod without removing the TT/Transmission is only possible on 1978 and possibly some 79s.
Otherwise, as stated, contact ROG100 and get the new design and forget about it.
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Curious what you comment about the bend in the original rod. The problem is that I know this rod has been forced to try to set the ball cup (it came to me with the ball cup out of it's place when buying the car) and now I'm not sure if the rod has the correct angle.
VT928, thanks for your explanation for removing the TT. I'm considering the short shifter, let's see if some people with it can give me here their feelings with it.
Some days ago I was considering the short shifter but I read somewhere that it is more for (track cars? sorry not sure about it), and would like to hear opinions about the short shifter for setting it in my 1980 model. If your advice is to set one of those, probably I will go for it and ask Roger one of them.
Lizard931, I have seen two videos around, of which I think they are your shifters... the stage II and stage III, are those the ones you are referring to?. In one of the videos I have seen, the bar goes tighten with nuts to the openning (seems easier to install), and in the other one you have to make drilling for the bar right?...
Thanks.
VT928, thanks for your explanation for removing the TT. I'm considering the short shifter, let's see if some people with it can give me here their feelings with it.
Some days ago I was considering the short shifter but I read somewhere that it is more for (track cars? sorry not sure about it), and would like to hear opinions about the short shifter for setting it in my 1980 model. If your advice is to set one of those, probably I will go for it and ask Roger one of them.
Lizard931, I have seen two videos around, of which I think they are your shifters... the stage II and stage III, are those the ones you are referring to?. In one of the videos I have seen, the bar goes tighten with nuts to the openning (seems easier to install), and in the other one you have to make drilling for the bar right?...
Thanks.
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You do not have to remove the clutch to get at the upper bolts that hold the torque tube to the bellhousing. You just need the right length extension to get to those bolts. So your replacement would go like this:
- Remove shifter frame and boot in car
- Remove exhaust (manifolds back)
- Remove exhaust heat shields and shield supports
- Remove two big bolts that hold the transmission to the crossmember
- Unbolt and move the slave cylinder out of the way
- Remove lower bellhousing cover
- Disconnect the front driveshaft coupler and push back into TT
- Remove the four bolts that connect the upper bellhousing to the TT (use right length extension for top two bolts)
- Push the transmission/TT assembly backwards, then tilt the front down
Now you will have full access to the front shift rod. It really isn't *that* hard. And the bonus is you will be able to easily clean out your A/C evaporator drain, which is almost guaranteed to be blocked up.
Dan
'91 928GT S/C
475hp/460lb.ft
- Remove shifter frame and boot in car
- Remove exhaust (manifolds back)
- Remove exhaust heat shields and shield supports
- Remove two big bolts that hold the transmission to the crossmember
- Unbolt and move the slave cylinder out of the way
- Remove lower bellhousing cover
- Disconnect the front driveshaft coupler and push back into TT
- Remove the four bolts that connect the upper bellhousing to the TT (use right length extension for top two bolts)
- Push the transmission/TT assembly backwards, then tilt the front down
Now you will have full access to the front shift rod. It really isn't *that* hard. And the bonus is you will be able to easily clean out your A/C evaporator drain, which is almost guaranteed to be blocked up.
Dan
'91 928GT S/C
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