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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Yes. Two out of three rings have all the same critical dimensions as S4 etc 100mm rings. IIRR its 2nd compression ring which is 0.1 or 0.2mm different. In any case its one of the compression rings.

There is cheap option of using S4/GT/951 sets and only use two of the new rings and one original used GTS compression. I have tried it on one engine build but do not have long time results. In any case I can't see why it wouldn't be ok as long as remaining original GTS rings are good enough to be used.
Excellent news, Im even more excited knowing its the second ring thats different.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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;8045913Koenig 928, when you say about oil being sucked into the intake are you referring to ahead of or after the MAF? When I recently changed the CPS and had to remove the MAF there was no oil at all accumulated in there. Presumably I'm not going to know about the possibility of worn valve guides until I get the engine apart.
Behind the MAF, just like cold_beer839 said. The oil vapors tend to pool at the bottom of the intake plenum (just behind the throttle valve).
Also, I meant the valve guide seals, not the valve guides.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by John Speake
Don't spoil his fun ! Fitting a provent is too easy. .. he really wants an excuse to pull that motor :-)
John, It's a hassle I could do without at this particular time but Jason is pushing me towards doing it. If you think the Shark Vent will do exactly what it say's on the tin I'd be happy to go with that and just do an intake refresh. So $64k questionJohn is what's your opinion on the Shark Vent?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 05:50 AM
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I've not tried it yet, although I do have one of DR's kits for my 86 15v. I have heard very good reports of the system that Roger sells, especially effective for the GTS. Even if you drilled the pistons, it would be highly recommended that you improved the crankcase ventilation of your engine.

For example, I don't think your early GTS has the improved venting to the cam covers, does it ?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by John Speake
I've not tried it yet, although I do have one of DR's kits for my 86 15v. I have heard very good reports of the system that Roger sells, especially effective for the GTS. Even if you drilled the pistons, it would be highly recommended that you improved the crankcase ventilation of your engine.

For example, I don't think your early GTS has the improved venting to the cam covers, does it ?
what amperage is your motor since you seem to be running 15volts through it , John?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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Didn't you know my S2 is a hybrid with added electric motor ?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Koenig928
Behind the MAF, just like cold_beer839 said. The oil vapors tend to pool at the bottom of the intake plenum (just behind the throttle valve).
Also, I meant the valve guide seals, not the valve guides.
I would be shocked if it did not need exhaust guides.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by John Speake
For example, I don't think your early GTS has the improved venting to the cam covers, does it ?
'93 was first year to get it.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
'93 was first year to get it.
Would this apply to any GTS irrespective of early or late providing it's a 93?
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Originally Posted by 928GTSM
Would this apply to any GTS irrespective of early or late providing it's a 93?
There were no early '93 GTS for ROW models. All ROW '93 are true '93 meaning they have '93 MY updates. Don't let messed up US MY info fool you.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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I was about to foolishly say that the first GTS's would have been the US's Early 93's but that ignoring the fact that the GTS was sold as a 92 model for ROW.

The "Early 1993" USA GTS's are really just 1992's with a window sticker stating 93.

When did the GTS first go on sale for the US?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Just for the record I do not sell a Provent/Sharkvent kit.
I bought mine from DR and it solved my smoking issue and helped my oil consumption.
Highly recommend DR's system.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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hey rog
your pistons are not drilled are they?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 11:02 PM
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It will be awful funny to go through all the cost and hassle of engine out rebuild, only to put it back together and still have blue smoke and oil consumption.

Do the crankcase vent and recirculation first. You will want it after the engine work anyway, and it's much cheaper than all the work you're contemplating.

The crankcase ventilation and recirculation system on these engines are not up to snuff anyway. In the GTS which tends to have a bit more blowby, and a bit more oil entrainment the stock circulation system was completely inadequate for even slightly used engines. The ProVent is a design based on the known problems of crankcase venting on the 928 engine. Start with that, and go from there.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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plus 9 million to what Doc is saying. just went thru this whole thing. it was fun but i was gonna be there anyway.
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