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Old 11-03-2010, 05:57 PM
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Default Mythbusters Tests The Porsche 928's Aerodynamics... In Reverse

The Mythbusters crew and Popular Mechanics will test later this month the old claim that the Porsche 928 could go faster if driven backwards. To do so, they spent a week flipping a 928's body to face the wrong direction

http://jalopnik.com/5680757/mythbust...ics-in-reverse

check it out here....

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We must have been typing at the same time!
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Just saw that, too funny.
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Hey, the ultimate mod! Why didn't I think of that ?
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Ha, After it airs I bet everyone who did a rear wiper delete will be kicking themselves.
Old 11-03-2010, 08:21 PM
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I just posted on the other thread. The car is at SEMA in Vegas. Pictures in the other thread...

https://rennlist.com/forums/8027468-post5.html
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Couldn't they just place it backwards in a wind tunnel?
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Wind tunnel is not as much FUN ! makes for bad TV
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At 75 mph, the original 1978 928 was losing 28 hp to drag, a noticeable deficit given its 219-hp engine.
Can this be right? Seems like an exaggeration.
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Body is a Euro, engine looks like a Euro S to me.
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Originally Posted by Mike Frye
Can this be right? Seems like an exaggeration.
Which part ??
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Cross-link to an interesting reference:

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...the-928-a.html
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Originally Posted by James Bailey
Which part ??
The 928's horsepower rating
Old 11-04-2010, 08:55 AM
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From Theo ( And Rick )

Quote:
I found a list by Markus (MG) from the list put together by the 911 meeting that is quite interesting and contains a lot of Cd values:
Air resistance factor (Cd) x Front surface (A) m2 = air resistance index

356/1 GMÜND 1948 (open with 2 persons): 0.45 x 1.41 = 0.648
356/2 GMÜND Coupé and Cabrio 1948 to 1950: 0.29 x 1.62 = 0.469
356 to MJ 1952: 0.296 x 1.677 = 0.496
356 to MJ 1955: 0.365 x 1.692 = 0.618
356 Speedster to MJ 1958. Convertible D 1959: 0.377 x 1.640 = 0.618
356 A: 0.365 x 1.692 = 0.618
356 B: 0.398 x 1.611 = 0.641
356 B roadster: 0.386 x 1.599 = 0.617
356 B 1600 GS Carrera GTL (Abarth): 0.389 x 1.495 = 0.581
356 C: 0.398 x 1.611 = 0.641

550 R-S Spyder: ?

904 Carrera GTS: 0.383 x 1.401 = 0.536

914.1.7 (also 914/6, 914/8, 914/8 SII) MJ 1970 to MJ 1973: 0.38 x 1.60 = 0.608
914.2.0 MJ 1973 and 1974: 0.38 x 1.60 = 0.608
914.2.0 MJ 1975 and 1976: 0.377 x 1.60 = 0.603

924 (MJ 1976 to 1979): 0.36 x 1.76 = 0.634
924 (starting from MJ 1980): 0.33 x 1.79 = 0.591
924 turbo (931): 0.34 x 1.79 = 0.609
924 Carrera GT (937): 0.34 x 1.82 = 0.619
924S (946): 0.33 x 1.81 = 0.597

944 (also S) MJ 1982 to 1989: 0.35 x 1.82 = 0.637
944 turbo (951) (also S2, turbo S, 968 CS, 968 turbo S): 0.33 x 1.89 = 0.624
944 S2 Cabrio MJ 1989 to 1991 (also S2 Cabrio, turbo Cabrio, 968 Cabrio): 0.36 x 1.87 = 0.673

928 MJ 1978 to 1982: 0.41 x 1.95 = 0.799
928 S MJ 1980 to 1986: 0.38 x 1.95 = 0.741
928 S4 MJ 1987 to 1991 (also CS. GT): 0.34 x 1.98 = 0.673
928 GTS MJ 1992 to 1995: 0.35 x 2.02 = 0.707

986 Boxster: 0.31 x 1.93 = 0.598
986 Boxster S MJ 2000 to 2002: 0.32 x 1.93 = 0.617

987 Boxster: 0.29 x 1.96 = 0.57
987 Boxster S: 0.30 x 1.97 = 0.59
987 Cayman S: 0.29 x 1.98 = 0.57

955 Cayenne (V6) MJ 2004: 0.38 x 2.78 = 1.056
955 Cayenne S (and turbo) MJ 2003 + 2004: 0.39 x 2.78 = 1.084

901 1964: 0.363 x 1.685 = 0.612

911 MJ 1965 to 1967 all types (also Targa and S): 0.363 x 1.685 = 0.612
911 MJ ' 68 (all types): CD x A (m2) = 0.381 x 1.6853 = 0.642

912: Similar to 911 of respective model years

911 MJ ' 69-'73: Cd x A (m2) = 0.408 x 1.71 = 0.697
911 RS MJ 1973: 0.397 x 1.73 = 0.686
911 MJ 1974 to MJ 1977 (also S. Targa): 0.39 x 1.76 = 0.686
911 SC MJ 1978 to MJ 1983 (also Targa and Cabrio) and Carrera MJ 1974 to MJ 1977: 0.40 x 1.77 = 0.708
911 Carrera 3.2 MJ 1984 to MJ 1989: 0.39 x 1.77 = 0.690
911 Carrera 3.2 MJ 1984 to MJ 1989 with front and tail spoiler (also Clubsport):0.38 x 1.77 = 0.672
911 turbo (930) (also WTL, SC/RS, turbo slant nose): 0.39 x 1.86 = 0.725

959: 0.31 x 1.92 = 0.595

964 (also R-S. R-S America, R-S N/GT): Cd x A (m2) = 0.32 x 1.79 = 0.573
964 turbo (994). (Frere): Cd x A (m2) = 0.35 x 1.88 = 0.658
964 turbo (994) (also WTL, Jubi) (Bongers): 0.36 x 1.89 = 0.680
964 turbo S lightweight construction (994) (also R-S 3.8. turbo 3.6, turbo 3.6 low rise building): 0.35 x 1.89 = 0.662

993 (also R-S): 0.33 x 1.86 = 0.614
993 R-S Clubsport (with rear wing 0 Angle of incidence): 0.34 x 1.86 = 0.632
993 R-S Clubsport (with rear wing 9 Angle of incidence): 0.36 x 1.86 = 0.669
993 GT 2: 0.34 x 2.04 = 0.684
993 turbo (also 2S. 4S, turbo Cabrio): CD x A (m2) = 0.34 x 1.93 = 0.656

996: Cd x A (m2) = 0.30 x 1.94 = 0.582
996 4S: 0.30 x 2.00 = 0.60
996 GT 2: 0.34 x 1.96 = 0.666
996 GT 3 MJ 1999 to 2001: 0.30 x 1.95 = 0.585
996 turbo: 0.31 x 2.0 = 0.62

997: 0.28 x 2.00 = 0.56
997 Cabrio: 0.29
997S: 0.29 x 2.00 = 0.58
997S Cabrio: 0.29
980 Carrera GT: 0.396 x 1.94 = 0.768

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Dibs on the drivetrain when they are done being idiots. Poor Euro. :-(


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