Kicking around buying an 84 928 S looking for advice
10-10-2010, 03:50 PM
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Kicking around buying an 84 928 S looking for advice
Hello. I'm the proud owner of a 1990 964 C2, and was recently offered an 84 928 S for $1,200.
The good:
It runs, drives, has many new parts (brakes, suspension, tires, gas tank, injectors, some engine seals, etc) less than 100k miles, complete factory repair volumes, performance exhaust. the list goes on...
The bad:
paint faded, interior in need of some cleaning and repair, cracked front spoiler, right rear control arm bent.
I have owned a 924, 924S, 914, and two 911s, but have not experienced the 928.
Any advice for things to look for or if this is a good year to buy would be appreciated.
Thank you!
The good:
It runs, drives, has many new parts (brakes, suspension, tires, gas tank, injectors, some engine seals, etc) less than 100k miles, complete factory repair volumes, performance exhaust. the list goes on...
The bad:
paint faded, interior in need of some cleaning and repair, cracked front spoiler, right rear control arm bent.
I have owned a 924, 924S, 914, and two 911s, but have not experienced the 928.
Any advice for things to look for or if this is a good year to buy would be appreciated.
Thank you!
10-10-2010, 03:59 PM
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oh! I forgot to mention in the "bad" section. the guy says it has a "cam tower leak" that is causing oil to drip on the exhaust. does that sound right? how much work is it to fix?
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
10-10-2010, 04:23 PM
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'84 is a great year.
If you care to have cosmetically nice car, be prepared to pony up some coin.... that is unless you do your own paint or upholstery.
It's good to be mechanically oriented, but thats the easiest piece of the pie, IMHO
I suggest finding one w/good interior and paint.
If you care to have cosmetically nice car, be prepared to pony up some coin.... that is unless you do your own paint or upholstery.
It's good to be mechanically oriented, but thats the easiest piece of the pie, IMHO
I suggest finding one w/good interior and paint.
10-10-2010, 04:27 PM
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I have an 84s, my cam tower was leaking as well, actually both of them but one worse than the other. On one side I repaced all gaskets, o-rings and cam tower gasket. Took some time and patience due to my motor mounts which were flat at the time making the engine further down in the compartment. On the other side, I just repaced the cam seal and the cork seal on the back of the cam tower and the leak stopped. Probably less than fifty bucks for the entire fix.
10-10-2010, 04:39 PM
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Thank you for the input!
I can do my own upholstery, probably paint too, or at least get it done for fairly cheap. I wouldn't want to make a show car out of it, but more of a daily driver in a state where they sand the roads...
I'm a mechanic, so working on the car doesn't concern me either, unless it involves a whole bunch of special tools.
How much work was it to fix the cam tower leak?
I was told you have to remove the motor, but that sounds extreme.
I can do my own upholstery, probably paint too, or at least get it done for fairly cheap. I wouldn't want to make a show car out of it, but more of a daily driver in a state where they sand the roads...
I'm a mechanic, so working on the car doesn't concern me either, unless it involves a whole bunch of special tools.
How much work was it to fix the cam tower leak?
I was told you have to remove the motor, but that sounds extreme.
10-10-2010, 04:50 PM
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Normal tools.
The 84 has a set of little thick O rings, like AJ tires we used to run on aurora HO scale cars. They are located beind the metal plates backing plates for the timing belt. They are notorious for leaking, so plan to do those, they are sometimes missed and are usually a major oil source. The only way to get an eyeball on them on the driver side is to remove the alternator and look straight upwards with a light from below. I think there might be an extra one on the DS because its a channel to oil the distributor.
What color? If single stage red it might buff-out.
The 84 has a set of little thick O rings, like AJ tires we used to run on aurora HO scale cars. They are located beind the metal plates backing plates for the timing belt. They are notorious for leaking, so plan to do those, they are sometimes missed and are usually a major oil source. The only way to get an eyeball on them on the driver side is to remove the alternator and look straight upwards with a light from below. I think there might be an extra one on the DS because its a channel to oil the distributor.
What color? If single stage red it might buff-out.
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10-10-2010, 06:03 PM
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Thanks again for the responses. It sounds like it is would be a good deal. I will admit the factory repair manuals were a big selling point.
Oh, and the truck driver is also the reason for the front spoiler damage... (never sign for your car or take delivery after dark)
What would be a few things to do right away to make sure the car doesn't have future issues? besides fluid changes, ect.
What kind of quirks do these cars experience?
Oh, and the truck driver is also the reason for the front spoiler damage... (never sign for your car or take delivery after dark)
What would be a few things to do right away to make sure the car doesn't have future issues? besides fluid changes, ect.
What kind of quirks do these cars experience?
10-10-2010, 06:12 PM
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Thanks again for the responses. It sounds like it is would be a good deal. I will admit the factory repair manuals were a big selling point.
Oh, and the truck driver is also the reason for the front spoiler damage... (never sign for your car or take delivery after dark)
What would be a few things to do right away to make sure the car doesn't have future issues? besides fluid changes, ect.
What kind of quirks do these cars experience?
Oh, and the truck driver is also the reason for the front spoiler damage... (never sign for your car or take delivery after dark)
What would be a few things to do right away to make sure the car doesn't have future issues? besides fluid changes, ect.
What kind of quirks do these cars experience?
If the '84 you're looking at is a US model, as I expect it is, the TB/WP maintenance isn't as critical to watch after since the engine is a non-interference design. The L-jet computer is bulletproof and I have never heard or read about any engine thrust bearing failures as seen in later cars. No hot wire MAF to worry with either. The '83-'84 US cars are great daily driver candidates. Very tough.
10-10-2010, 11:19 PM
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Thank you for the input!
I can do my own upholstery, probably paint too, or at least get it done for fairly cheap. I wouldn't want to make a show car out of it, but more of a daily driver in a state where they sand the roads...
I'm a mechanic, so working on the car doesn't concern me either, unless it involves a whole bunch of special tools.
How much work was it to fix the cam tower leak?
I was told you have to remove the motor, but that sounds extreme.
I can do my own upholstery, probably paint too, or at least get it done for fairly cheap. I wouldn't want to make a show car out of it, but more of a daily driver in a state where they sand the roads...
I'm a mechanic, so working on the car doesn't concern me either, unless it involves a whole bunch of special tools.
How much work was it to fix the cam tower leak?
I was told you have to remove the motor, but that sounds extreme.
We have GREAT 928 vendors for new/used parts. I don't see how you could go wrong for $1,200.
10-11-2010, 10:18 AM
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when I decided I wanted a 928, did a lot of reading including Rennlist.
I wanted a nice daily driver to replace my now track oriented 911.
settled on an 83-84 to get a 4 sp auto and all the issues stated above. I found a good 84 over 2 yrs ago.
it was in good driving shape with I got it with some recently major maintenance. since I got it I have been doing a lot of other refresh work. so far no difficulties doing the work. this winter, new shocks and motor mounts. from all I have read about shocks / MM replactment, just a lot of hard wrenching but not complicated.
I would agree with all the above comments. exactly what I have experienced.
Love my shark. go for it.
I wanted a nice daily driver to replace my now track oriented 911.
settled on an 83-84 to get a 4 sp auto and all the issues stated above. I found a good 84 over 2 yrs ago.
it was in good driving shape with I got it with some recently major maintenance. since I got it I have been doing a lot of other refresh work. so far no difficulties doing the work. this winter, new shocks and motor mounts. from all I have read about shocks / MM replactment, just a lot of hard wrenching but not complicated.
I would agree with all the above comments. exactly what I have experienced.
Love my shark. go for it.
10-11-2010, 10:55 AM
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From that general description I would say you will get 928 handling, but that is about it.
You will be down on power and it may take 10K to get the look of a 928 paint and interior wise. Does anyone give anything away for free? Why is this car going for 1200? I do not know what you expect out of it, but it won't be a GTS experience. If that is ok and you realize that and just want a hobby then grab it.
You will be down on power and it may take 10K to get the look of a 928 paint and interior wise. Does anyone give anything away for free? Why is this car going for 1200? I do not know what you expect out of it, but it won't be a GTS experience. If that is ok and you realize that and just want a hobby then grab it.