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Old 09-09-2010, 07:09 PM
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Total production 12,149 of all flavors....many have perished.
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Totoal 308 production was approximately 12,150 cars.

Of those approx 712 are the much sought after Fiberglass carb cars.

Around 3,790 are the highly desirably QVs.

Approximately 2350 are the 1980-82 early fuel injected cars with only 205 hp.

You also have to remember, over the years some cars have been totalled, others are rough/deferred maintenance junk cars. Then there are good drivers, and some top quality show cars.

The numbers are from the book, Original Ferrari V8. It's a pretty accurate.
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Old 09-10-2010, 08:50 AM
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And according to the numbers I have, only about 750 GTB QVs were built from late '82-85. Of those only 84-85 are fully galvanized with a somewhat improved exhaust. How many are ROW vs. US I have no idea, but I do know that my mid-85 is one of the last off the line and is one of just a handful with matched red carpet. Yeah it's splitting hairs but I like it, and figure there are maybe a couple hundred euro GTBs out there. The chassis stiffness of the hard top is really amazing compared to the GTS. Overall it can't match the machined-from-billet feel of the 928, but for a tube chassis Italian car it's very solid.

Oh and my 928 is one of just a handful in rauchquarzmetallic too, so I like unusual cars!
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by shmark View Post
my mid-85 is one of the last off the line and is one of just a handful with matched red carpet.

Overall it can't match the machined-from-billet feel of the 928, but for a tube chassis Italian car it's very solid.
I love the red carpet, mine has it also. Red carpet is much more common on the Euro spec 308/328s than it is on US spec cars. I've seen photos of several cars in the UK with red carpeting. For some reason the majority of cars with tan or crema interiors destined for the USA were delivered with tan carpets.

I agree, Porsches of that vintage feel far more rigid than Ferraris (no matter what the roof configuration is).
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Do they also require engine out for the WP and belts, like some of the other newer models?
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Do they also require engine out for the WP and belts, like some of the other newer models?
308/328 do not need the engine out to do a major service & belts.

348s & 355s need to have the engine removed. Some of the newer models have access panels behind the seats so that certain services can be done without removing the engine.
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308s are sidewinders transverse engine think VW Rabbit but with the engine behind the seats....pull off the rear wheels and you get pretty good access for most things. The later 3 models went to a T configuration like a 914 or Pantera which pushed the front of the engine up against the firewall/seats
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Old 09-10-2010, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bailey View Post
308s are sidewinders transverse engine think VW Rabbit but with the engine behind the seats....pull off the rear wheels and you get pretty good access for most things. The later 3 models went to a T configuration like a 914 or Pantera which pushed the front of the engine up against the firewall/seats
Geez you coulda said "think Miura" instead. Ouch.
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Subjectively I'd feel like my hair was on fire while you'd be fairly relaxed even though we were both on the limit. Both have similar limits, but you're right the 308 feels faster at slower speeds.
Love that quote. (ha) I've always been an admirer of the Ferrari's, especially the 308/328 GTS. I recall R&T articles from the late 90's that mentioned you could buy (an older) Ferrari for $25k and work on it yourself. I was slightly tempted then. Maybe someday...after I do more 928 upgrades.

I had the privilege to ride in a Ferrari Modena (semi-Race model) last year. A mechanic friend was giving it a test drive after $6k in maintenance (plugs, points, etc). Wow, what a ride - loud and rough. You could feel every pebble in the road, but it gripped the road like a leach. It certainly consumes attention by the driver and passerby's. It is truly a race car.
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Wow - awesome car. I hadn't seen (remember) a 288GTO. As you eluded to, it's still an inspiring design.

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Good thread! In my opinion the 308 body is one of the best looking road cars of all time. Of course, the real potential was only realized in the 288 GTO. (see sublime body in picture below)


Now, if I just had that extra half mil for that GTO... oh baby!
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:01 PM
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Talking "You Can Afford a Ferrari"...(1978)

ha!...I found my article! I knew I had it stowed somewhere. I used to save every R&T in the 70's and 80's, then clip my fav articles. Here's the one I was referring to earlier - from June, 1978. I thought you guys would get a kick out of it. If you want the high-res versions of these, just send me a msg.






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Nice timing to resurrect this thread. Makes me feel a little better.
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Old 09-19-2010, 02:07 AM
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It's all good, Mark! You did well. And as only Rob E. knows, the Doc Brown stroker would assuage any long term remorse, and then some! (don't forget the new custom exhaust, though!)
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