Ispeed

That says it all in a nutshell. Good man!

Richter12x2

Just so we're clear, you're position is that if you take an SC300 and put another $8-$10k into it, you can finally meet or exceed the performance of a 24 year old German luxury car? The SC is a nice car, and I like them a lot, but if you debadge it, you'll have a hard time telling it apart from a Toyota Avalon. That doesn't happen in a 928.

slownrusty

Afshin - If you compare year for year and stock for stock the Turbo Zs were a fair bit ahead of the 928. In 1983 the stock 280ZX Turbo ran to 60mp/h in the 7sec (conservatively) much quicker than the same year 928 and also faster than the same year Corvette and Ferrari 328. Not really a fair comparison, your 1990 928GT to a Z car almost 10 years older.

The 2JZ already comes stock in the SC300. A Turbo kit for this car is in $1500 range. The Avalon is a four door car based on the FWD Camry platform and shares nothing with the SC300 RWD 2 door Coupe platform which is based off the last generation Supra. Please get your facts straight before posting. If taking off the badges confuses you which is which, you should consider another hobby, these cars look nothing alike.

shmark

I remember when the SC300/400 came out we were all blown away by the styling, it was so different from everything else back then. The designers actually used plaster-filled balloons to come up with the shape. Nowadays it's a little bland looking, but when it came out it was absolutely gorgeous. In that respect, the 928 has stood the test of time a lot better than the SC. Not the most beautiful car, but distinctive and still looks good. When Lexus came out with the SC430 it was WTF have they done, took a beautiful coupe and created a franken-car. ick. But still comparing a 928 and an SC just doesn't compute. Lux-coupe versus a GT, very different cars.

EspritS4s

Where can you buy a SC300 turbo kit for $1500? If this is true, I may have to consider another project car. A quick search online turned up $4-5K for a kit.

I leased a '95 SC300 for a few years. It was my first big purchase after graduating college. It was a great car, and I've often thought about buying another.

Richter12x2

All I know is that I got behind some Toyota a day or two ago that looked just like an SC300 from the rear. Maybe I'm confused on which model Toyota looks like a Lexus SC300, but that's because I didn't even give it a second look other than wondering if he'd leave the light fast enough that I could get around him. And I'm with you, I'd definitely consider another hobby before I'd consider trading in my Porsche for a Toyota with a gold badge on it that could be fast, someday.

Then you're going to need some way to tune it, some ONE to tune it, and quite a bit of dyno time, after all that you'll end up with a car that no dealer and most mechanics won't be able to help you with if you get into trouble.

Hilton

The '83 stock 928S 0-60 was 6.5s everywhere in the world except the US market.

Remember, it was the 300hp motor known here on Rennlist as the "Euro S". It was actually introduced in 1980 with the same power/performance.

In '84, the 928S stock time dropped even further to 6.2 when they bumped the hp to 310 and added LH-jet.

john bono

Maybe an auto 928. Auto 928s are dogs from a dig, which is what 0-60 measures. A stick would be a much closer race 0-60. By the end of the 1/4, a 928 is going to catch the 280zx(and at a significantly higher trap speed). And after the quarter, it's game over for the z. All he's going to see are the 928's taillights.

Richter12x2

A PT Cruiser Turbo gets 6.7s 0-60. That doesn't make it equivalent to a 928, either.

EspritS4s

Big deal, I'm used to driving cars that no dealer and most mechanics aren't able to help me with if I get into trouble In fact, I've got three of them right now and that's not including the Lotus.

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"Then you're going to need some way to tune it, some ONE to tune it, and quite a bit of dyno time, after all that you'll end up with a car that no dealer and most mechanics won't be able to help you with if you get into trouble."

dprantl

Having a car that no dealer or mechanic can help me with is a *bonus* for me I also like tuning it and playing around with it, and no it didn't require any dyno time. And it's still my DD too.

Dan
'91 928GT S/C 475hp/460lb.ft

Richter12x2

I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just putting it out there for consideration. For example, adding a turbo for a car not designed to come with one usually involves lower compression pistons, or you're going to be at increased risk for detonation. Since it's computer controlled, in order to tune it down, you're either going to have to have a custom chip burned, or you'll need to go standalone. If you go standalone, you're going to make sure you know the parameters you need to tune the engine.
Or you hack it together with a rising rate fuel pressure regulator or bigger injectors and a hacked MAF and hope it runs well enough that you can drive it.
People do it all the time, but it's something you need to consider before you get into something like this. I think an LS1 in a Miata would be a lot more fun, personally.

axis of evil

You got it. That's what a hobby is all about.
I would not like to own a 928, or advise anyone to buy one, if mechanical knowledge was restricted to checking the oil and water,(You would have to have unlimited funds and total faith in the repair industry- sitting duck.)
Best rule in buying/owning any high performance or exotic, If you don't know how to maintain/fix/ or even modify, don't buy it. You don't need the dramas, and you will run out of money real fast.
Back to Lexus V 928, Not sure if it was ever available in the States but there was a 1JZ 2.5 litre twin turbo version available in Japan, much quicker than the V8 version, it got even better post 1996 when they went to a single turbo and Vvti.
the 2.5litre in this form was a much quicker revver than the 2J TT,with max torque at 2400RPM, a beast.
The body, would never win a beauty contest if it was parked next to a 928, Toyota has built some magic performance engines, pity they were always dumped into such boring looking cars.