GTS Suspension upgrade part 1
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Orange springs are the very rare M637.............were having a discussion on the my 90 GT suspension thread.
Is there any option code that confirms a suspension/spring upgrade?
Is there any option code that confirms a suspension/spring upgrade?
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Interesting. I don't think there is anything noted on the option code sticker but I'll look today and confirm.
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Glad to see you are using more than the recommended spring compressors. Our local Ford shop had a front spring go ape **** and it is embedded in the block wall 15 feet up. They have left it there as a reminder to everyone in the shop how much power is in a coil spring. Never can been too careful
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I suspect the person that is under the spring when it finally decides to fall out of the wall from 15 feet up will get a first-hand tutorial in the kinetic energy stored in that particular spring, No?
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1 brown mark: 191 - 197 lb/in
2 brown marks: 197 - 203 lb/in
3 brown marks: 203 - 209 lb/in
Orange marked springs are said to be 8% stiffer than standard springs, and therefore at most 226 lb/in. Also note that they are paired with the standard M474 shocks on the Club Sport cars.
A bit from the aftermarket springs.
EDIT: This should be easy to test in practical life, before the springs are installed. Apply a pressure of 226 and expect to see a compression of 1 inch. I have a feeling that it takes more than 226 pounds to do that, and therefore the rating is on the low side. Just a feeling I have.
EDIT 2: This document may be handy: http://928clubsport.free.fr/collecti...se.php?idrep=3
When will Samuels magnificent CS site be back in service ? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease !
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Chuck,
That's going to look really good when you're done!
You may want to take the time to clean and paint your dust shields. You could mask everything off with the fronts on the car so you don't have to pull the front hubs off. Rears are a snap to remove after remove the rotors.
Also, you will probably want to paint the hats on those Zimmerman Rotors as well. I know the Zimmerman's on the 79 were unpainted and rusted really quickly. I painted them with rustoleum hammered paint on recommendation from Roger and Jim M. It's made to paint right over rust, but you can paint the bare hats no problem. I also unded up painting the edges or "vanes" on the edges of the rotors as well.
Here's the paint
http://rustoleum.com/CBGProductFinde...ST&bsq=F&bid=8
You can get it at Home Depot or Lowes. I used a paintbrush as I did not want to remove the hats. It will be easier for you to spray the hats and Vanes while they are off the car. The hammered Silver will "match" your wheels the best, hide dirt, and brakedust that you can't get to every single time you wipe your wheels off. The paint hides imperfections and is pretty durable.
Keep us posted, I'm right behind you on this project by a few months!!
That's going to look really good when you're done!
You may want to take the time to clean and paint your dust shields. You could mask everything off with the fronts on the car so you don't have to pull the front hubs off. Rears are a snap to remove after remove the rotors.
Also, you will probably want to paint the hats on those Zimmerman Rotors as well. I know the Zimmerman's on the 79 were unpainted and rusted really quickly. I painted them with rustoleum hammered paint on recommendation from Roger and Jim M. It's made to paint right over rust, but you can paint the bare hats no problem. I also unded up painting the edges or "vanes" on the edges of the rotors as well.
Here's the paint
http://rustoleum.com/CBGProductFinde...ST&bsq=F&bid=8
You can get it at Home Depot or Lowes. I used a paintbrush as I did not want to remove the hats. It will be easier for you to spray the hats and Vanes while they are off the car. The hammered Silver will "match" your wheels the best, hide dirt, and brakedust that you can't get to every single time you wipe your wheels off. The paint hides imperfections and is pretty durable.
Keep us posted, I'm right behind you on this project by a few months!!
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You may be right Ben. I just don't want to be that guy. FWIW, I don't think the whole spring is up there just the part of it protruding from the wall doesn't appear to be a whole spring.
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If you remove the top shock nut before you lift the car, you don't need compresssors for removal. As you jack/lift the car it all comes apart slowly.
p.s. I can't believe the factory springs are that soft. Holy cow! My 600/400 feel a little stiff, but not when really going.
p.s. I can't believe the factory springs are that soft. Holy cow! My 600/400 feel a little stiff, but not when really going.
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Chuck,
That's going to look really good when you're done!
You may want to take the time to clean and paint your dust shields. You could mask everything off with the fronts on the car so you don't have to pull the front hubs off. Rears are a snap to remove after remove the rotors.
Also, you will probably want to paint the hats on those Zimmerman Rotors as well. I know the Zimmerman's on the 79 were unpainted and rusted really quickly. I painted them with rustoleum hammered paint on recommendation from Roger and Jim M. It's made to paint right over rust, but you can paint the bare hats no problem. I also unded up painting the edges or "vanes" on the edges of the rotors as well.
Here's the paint
http://rustoleum.com/CBGProductFinde...ST&bsq=F&bid=8
You can get it at Home Depot or Lowes. I used a paintbrush as I did not want to remove the hats. It will be easier for you to spray the hats and Vanes while they are off the car. The hammered Silver will "match" your wheels the best, hide dirt, and brakedust that you can't get to every single time you wipe your wheels off. The paint hides imperfections and is pretty durable.
Keep us posted, I'm right behind you on this project by a few months!!
That's going to look really good when you're done!
You may want to take the time to clean and paint your dust shields. You could mask everything off with the fronts on the car so you don't have to pull the front hubs off. Rears are a snap to remove after remove the rotors.
Also, you will probably want to paint the hats on those Zimmerman Rotors as well. I know the Zimmerman's on the 79 were unpainted and rusted really quickly. I painted them with rustoleum hammered paint on recommendation from Roger and Jim M. It's made to paint right over rust, but you can paint the bare hats no problem. I also unded up painting the edges or "vanes" on the edges of the rotors as well.
Here's the paint
http://rustoleum.com/CBGProductFinde...ST&bsq=F&bid=8
You can get it at Home Depot or Lowes. I used a paintbrush as I did not want to remove the hats. It will be easier for you to spray the hats and Vanes while they are off the car. The hammered Silver will "match" your wheels the best, hide dirt, and brakedust that you can't get to every single time you wipe your wheels off. The paint hides imperfections and is pretty durable.
Keep us posted, I'm right behind you on this project by a few months!!
Chuck, will the Rustoleum paint take the heat from the rotors?
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Rick,
The paint holds up really well. I've had it on the 79 for several years with no problems.
Roger here and Jim Mayzurk both painted their hats before I did and that's where I got the idea from. Both Jim's and Roger's still look good.
BTW, Jim's GTS is a daily driver.
The paint holds up really well. I've had it on the 79 for several years with no problems.
Roger here and Jim Mayzurk both painted their hats before I did and that's where I got the idea from. Both Jim's and Roger's still look good.
BTW, Jim's GTS is a daily driver.
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Chuck,
That's going to look really good when you're done!
You may want to take the time to clean and paint your dust shields. You could mask everything off with the fronts on the car so you don't have to pull the front hubs off. Rears are a snap to remove after remove the rotors.
Also, you will probably want to paint the hats on those Zimmerman Rotors as well. I know the Zimmerman's on the 79 were unpainted and rusted really quickly. I painted them with rustoleum hammered paint on recommendation from Roger and Jim M. It's made to paint right over rust, but you can paint the bare hats no problem. I also unded up painting the edges or "vanes" on the edges of the rotors as well.
Here's the paint
http://rustoleum.com/CBGProductFinde...ST&bsq=F&bid=8
You can get it at Home Depot or Lowes. I used a paintbrush as I did not want to remove the hats. It will be easier for you to spray the hats and Vanes while they are off the car. The hammered Silver will "match" your wheels the best, hide dirt, and brakedust that you can't get to every single time you wipe your wheels off. The paint hides imperfections and is pretty durable.
Keep us posted, I'm right behind you on this project by a few months!!
That's going to look really good when you're done!
You may want to take the time to clean and paint your dust shields. You could mask everything off with the fronts on the car so you don't have to pull the front hubs off. Rears are a snap to remove after remove the rotors.
Also, you will probably want to paint the hats on those Zimmerman Rotors as well. I know the Zimmerman's on the 79 were unpainted and rusted really quickly. I painted them with rustoleum hammered paint on recommendation from Roger and Jim M. It's made to paint right over rust, but you can paint the bare hats no problem. I also unded up painting the edges or "vanes" on the edges of the rotors as well.
Here's the paint
http://rustoleum.com/CBGProductFinde...ST&bsq=F&bid=8
You can get it at Home Depot or Lowes. I used a paintbrush as I did not want to remove the hats. It will be easier for you to spray the hats and Vanes while they are off the car. The hammered Silver will "match" your wheels the best, hide dirt, and brakedust that you can't get to every single time you wipe your wheels off. The paint hides imperfections and is pretty durable.
Keep us posted, I'm right behind you on this project by a few months!!
Thanks for the post.
My rotors and calipers are ready to go (well, except the rear calipers which need to be repainted...... again!):
I actually used a high temp silver to paint the hats and followed up with a product called Pelucid from POR15 (http://www.por15.com/) It's a rock hard clearcoat that doesn't yellow and is chip resistant.
For the dust shields, I plan on using another product from POR15 called Black Velvet (http://www.por15.com/BLACK-VELVET/productinfo/BVG/) to refinish them.
I have used all these products b/f and have been extremely pleased with them.
As clean as my GTS is, I never cleaned the underside like I did Kermit and plan to do so as part of this project. There is a ton of cosmoline that needs to come off........ fun.. fun!
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If you remove the top shock nut before you lift the car, you don't need compresssors for removal. As you jack/lift the car it all comes apart slowly.
p.s. I can't believe the factory springs are that soft. Holy cow! My 600/400 feel a little stiff, but not when really going.
p.s. I can't believe the factory springs are that soft. Holy cow! My 600/400 feel a little stiff, but not when really going.