Franks928s

good morning! I have a 85 928s with european headlamps. There is a local vendor who is trying to talk me into a HID conversion kit. It's a minature kit that he says should fit behind the eyeballs skins. My question is "It draws lower wattage then the existing lamps - will this cause me error lights on my dash?"

Thanks!
Frank

AO

No it wil not cause an error. However, you may need to put a slightly higher amp fuse into the fues panel becasue the ignitors will cause a spike when you first turn on the HIDs and could blow the circuit - but after that, it'll be fine.

One critical point is that you'll want to make sure you have your headlights properly aimed. The H4's have a focused lens that could blind on-coming traffic if not aimed properly.

SeanR

I installed the Bi-Xenon Hi/Low 6000k kit last week thanks to Jim S. Using H-5's

They are really damn bright on the low beam setting so I need to readjust them. It's not too difficult to install, just takes about 2 hours to mount them and run the wires real well.

They really light up the night. High beams light things like nothing I've ever seen.

ew928

Which Bi-Xenons?
Moveable bulbs (one that pivots up/down or moves forward/backwards)
or moveable shield around bulb?

Slim (3/4" thick) or regular ballast/ignitor.
Zip tied or Hose clamped.


Nice birthday present from Jim.

SeanR

It's the movable bulb, up/down. The ballasts are slim and I mounted them by way of screw/bolts to the fender horizontal frame piece thingy. The control unit is mounted by zip tie to the back side of the bumper. Wires are all run through the factory harness holes. The only thing you can see that doesn't look stock is the fuse holder sticking out a bit by the jump post.

And ya, Jim's great. He got himself a set and I'm going to install them on his car as soon as I can find time to actually do it. Hope to do so this week end.

auzivision

Hey Sean,

Sounds cool… can you tell which setup you used?

Was it something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/JLM-conversion.../dp/B001AQD89S

Big Dave

Someone needs to create a how-to for this project, including pictures.

AO

From personal experience, you will annoy all your friends and enemies if you install these in H5's. It's too difused. I used to have a 600k set on my GT, but I caved to peer pressure to remove them.

Imo000

The 928 H4 "kits" are the same as the one for the '99 Mazda Protege. They also have H4 lenses, so if you are looking fo ra kit, try the Protege ones. I have a set sitting in my garage (left over from a Protege Project car). The "7 Bosch H4 kit that my '85 has will accept the Protege kit without any issues.

Make sure to buy a kit that has everything in it, including a relay block (bank of 4 relays).

DR

I have the HID kits in the headlights, Foglights and Driving lights on my 85 Euro. They kick a$$!!

We used to sell the kits, but the "Ebay deals" got so cheap we couldn't compete and stopped selling them.

Ed Scherer did an excellent write-up on the install of an S4 (concept is the same) here on Rennlist ....

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...available.html

Bill51sdr

I have to agree here. I got a HID set for my 928, installed with H-5's. They are spectacular, but I could tell I was really annoying people at times, even with the beams adjusted downward. Mine have no high-beam so it was a compromise. Pulling up behind LEO's was usually a tense situation. YMMV.

Brett Jenkins

Same here, the low beams are VERY bright and go off when you switch to high beams. I can easily drive with the high beams in the bumper, but I too wonder what the LEO's think about them.

Why, exactly, do they go off when we switch to high-beam? Is there anyway to counter-act that, or some solution that we can use in conjunction with these lights?

Bill51sdr

When you connect the HID's the hi-beam wire is not used in the case of mine (and apparently yours). I suppose you might be able to jump the hi and low beam wire together but am not sure of what problems that may cause. I did not want to risk it.

dr bob

A couple isolation diodes in the trigger to the relay should take care of the issue. Then either hi- or low-beam power would energize the relay.

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I admired all the light that Bill Ball's HID H-4's put out when driving to OCIC. I didn't get in front of him (no intake compressor...) so can't say how annoying they are. I have driven in the vicinity of folks who have done the conversion to 9004/9005/9007 lamps of the H5 family, and the stray light from them is more than annoying. I guess I'd be looking for a set of H4 lamps before considering the HID conversion if that's the way they perform.

Sean, maybe a few pictures from the driver's seat, and also from an oncoming driver's perspective? If the moving bulb shield does the job in managing stray light emissions, I would make this conversion for the extra "good" light and lower power drain. The H-3's in the foglights are candidates right now, so I can use them as DRL's.

Bill51sdr

I agree that H-4's are the way to go with HID's. H-5's just cook people.