sweet928

Many years ago I went to go look at a 928 for sale. I believe it was a @91 GT - if memory serves. What struck me about the car is it had GTS rear quarters. The seller told me the Porsche factory specially made it with GTS body (to be) for the NY auto show.

He bought the car at the show from Porsche. At the time I didn't realize that it was potentially quite special.( Or not?) Actually the car was less then perfect and because of this, I passed on the car. Just was wondering if anyone has ever heard of this particular 928. I'm wondering if it's worth more then a regular GT of that year and what happened to it? It was a black car. That is all I can remember about it.

namasgt

there was a black S4 for sale with GTS body a few months ago . I dont know what year the car was.

Vilhuer

Was show held between July 1991 and January 1992? If yes then GT conversion would make some sense as first real US GTS were made in January 1992. PCNA could have wanted GTS for the show but since none existed conversion would be next best thing. If show was held before ROW GTS release in late summer 1991 or little after US production start then explanation doesn't make sense and was very likely BS.

Ian928

I have read somewhere that the GTS rear fenders could be ordered on GT's and probably S4's before the launch of the GTS? But if that was the case, surely Erkka would know every detail about it

Vilhuer

So far no one has been able to find any single evidence which would show GTS rear fenders, rear bumber or Cup mirrors being available one day before ROW GTS went into production in late summer 1991. Many claims over the years but no proof at all.

'88 MY Exclusive department fenders and slant nose setup is separate thing and while back have been proven to be from factory.

Ragnar Joensen

I know of a 928 GT, early MY 1991 (WP0ZZZ92ZMS800579) with factory installed GTS rear flares. It is for sale in Denmark. Asking price is DKR 105 000, equal to just below USD 20 000.

The option code is XX9 and at the time of purchase the pricetag for the GTS flares in Germany was DM 11 973 (around USD 6 000).

The car in question is very well documented with the original purchase invoice. It also has the GTS mirrors, but I have not inquired about those.

Please see this link: http://www.dba.dk/asp/soegning/detai...nceid=61107300

It is shown as a 1990, but the serialnumber is telling a different story.


Ragnar

Vilhuer

Very interesting. What spacers, wheels and tires were included into XX9? Based on picture it also included rub strips. Were Swiss intake tubes also part of the package or are those later addition?

Ragnar Joensen

I cant answer those questions. I guess its a fairly safe bet to consider the Twist wheels to be installed at a later time. Most likely the car was fitted with D90's and either 35mm spacers as on the GTS according to PET or the 43 mm spacers found on my car as a part of option XC1. Those 43 mm spacers actually have a 930 partnumber. The wheels on my car were option M393 and not a part of XC1 option.

On my previous GT, MY 1990 (serialnumber WP0ZZZ92ZLS842116) the "swiss" intake tubes were fitted from new. That car was originally sold in Germany and it had the longer gearshifter, known from the S4 manual. So there are some variations.

Either way the original purchase invoice of this '91 GT show the XX9 option code, the description of the code and the price.


Ragnar

911user

Found another string of messages about the 1991 GT at the New York show.

hans14914

Steve from up in MN has this car. Its a GT fitted with standard mirrors but GTS flares.

I think he is driving it down to SITM.

Imo000

I'm working on an Japanese 91 S4 with factory GTS flares and regular mirrors. It is owned by an RLer. Porsche must have offered this as some special option in a few cars.

928cs

In fact, they have produced 50 1991 S4 with this configuration, and some others Euro cars (S4 and GT) with the complete GTS kit.

OTR18WHEELER

Ok Hillary, just cause you say so, don't make it so.
There has only been one authenticated documuntatation of such a vehicle.
Prove otherwise.

JWise

From a review of North American build sheet data, Steve (911user) does indeed have the only '91 built for this market with this option (code XX8).

However, as Samuel states, there are other ROW cars with it. Here are two, both Japanese market models, the first of which is now owned by fellow Rennlister Danny (DJF1):

911user

Jarrod
Great pics and follow up.