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Old 06-02-2009, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Crisis
How critical is it to replace the sealing rings on the hoses that have been removed?

I ask only because after waiting for three weeks for my new reservoir & supply line, I'm finding the sealing rings very difficults to source locally and don't really wat to wait several weeks for new rings. As it is, the car has been sitting on jackstands since the beginning of May and I'm missing prime driving weather.
They are copper crush rings, so you can find them at auto/hardware/tool outlets etc. I bought a whole box with hundreds various sizes. Forgive me but can't remember if Canada is metric or not - if it is then it's obviosuly easier to source the metric rings.

The one used on the steering lines have a standard internal diameter (check PET, or measure yours) but I think the outside diameter is a little narrower than the standard metric crush rings you find. This doesn't matter.

Yes it is important to use new ones. Reuse of old ones very likely to give rise to leaks.
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The copper crush rings are 14mm inside diameter and 18mm outside diameter.

I just did this job a couple of weeks ago. The low pressure line is easy to do, but the high pressure line (the one that was leaking), requires removal of the alternator and the power steering pump in order to access the hollow bolt at the pump to remove the line.

Do it yourself and it's a weekend job, including time out for cleaning and a beer or two. Don't rush it.
Old 06-02-2009, 06:01 PM
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Relatively easy to diy as I fitted a new pressure line and am a fairly novice wrencher.

But check condition of your engine mounts. Mine were almost new so there was enough room to manoeuvre the metal section of pressure line along the top of cross member when removing and installing. A friend (experienced wrench) recently did same job on same model 928 but with collapsed mounts, and the line had insufficient 'wiggle room'. I think he had to jack engine slightly to create space after getting very frustrated.

A lot easier to put everything back together if you have a helper to put the alternator pivot bolt back while you hold alternator up to mounting tabs.
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Originally Posted by StratfordShark
They are copper crush rings, so you can find them at auto/hardware/tool outlets etc. I bought a whole box with hundreds various sizes. Forgive me but can't remember if Canada is metric or not - if it is then it's obviosuly easier to source the metric rings.
The copper crush rings are 14mm inside diameter and 18mm outside diameter. Do it yourself and it's a weekend job, including time out for cleaning and a beer or two. Don't rush it.
A lot easier to put everything back together if you have a helper to put the alternator pivot bolt back while you hold alternator up to mounting tabs.
Well, it took trips to 5 different places to find the crush rings, but I finally have them and am heading home early to start the re-assembly before it gets too late. As much as a PITA that the dis-assembly was, it has been a good learning experience. With a little luck, everything will go back together OK. I'll try to coerce my 17 year old to be the alternator holder for that part.

Thanks for the input from everyone.
Old 06-02-2009, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jadz928
It's a good time to flush the system. - .5hr evac and replace

Resevoir is easy to replace - .25hr

Hose to PS pump requires to lower the Alt to get to the big banjo. Involved is dropping the front belly pan, alt, and replace hose - .5/.75hr

Front hose is swaged to the hardline. Swage needs to be Dremeled, and hose replace with regular hose clamps. - .5hr

So 2 hours total, not including cleaning.
Jim-

Thanks for that detailed reply- very helpful. I had heard previously that the radiator might have to be removed as well to get at it properly. Either way, 2 hrs sounds good.

Also a quick thanks to the whole list for all the input and tips in response to this query- have not made one in a while and forgot what a great resource this is!

regards-

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Is that in rand or dollars?
Old 06-02-2009, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by heinrich
Cute pic of your daughter btw .. I bet she loves to ride in the Porsche with Dad .... kids love these cars almost more than we do!
Last one- yes you are absolutely right-my girls love this car. We had an unseasonable COLD day during an all-weekend carshow here in Charleston, SC a few months back and didn't dress properly. She being 50% "proud South African" refused every chance to go home over a long day- to the bitter end- convinced we would win. In the end we did take the open class in Import Sportscars. The trophy is in her room of course, and I have always gotten great joy asking her "Ah which car do ya wanna take?" knowing the reply will be "The Porsche!!" every time. Yes they love them.

So do big girls I think........
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Just finished the re-assembly. It took about 3 hours, including well over an hour for flushing the system, due to my foolishness of trying to use a half-assed drain hose setup during the flush, resulting in the face of the engine being covered in dextron (just like it looked before I changed the hoses & reservoir). Without the flushing screw-up it would have easily been done in less than 2 hours.

So, even for a DIY newbie such as myself, the entire replacement should be able to be accompished in less than 4 hours. In addition to saving some $$$, doing it yourself will help you get better acquainted with your shark IMHO.
Old 06-03-2009, 05:38 AM
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That's great that you've completed the job.

Agree completely with diy comment. The more jobs I do on the car, the more I can tackle other jobs which once seemed way out of reach, and the less chance I have of getting 'stuck' for long as you have overcome similar problem in past.



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