sw928s

Hi,

iam from Germany, near Cologne i need a little help..

but my english ist not really good..

i have an 928 S a Prototyp Car

The fin is WPOOOZZZ92ZBS840011

the german produce date is 09.06.1980

original 169875tkm

this car has special feauteres:

100l gasoline tank

5 gear sport manuel box

long drivetrain v max is 272km/h with gps. on 6300 rpm

gearbox: g28-0X

light weight the weight of the car is 1350kg in the german papers

no isolation in the car to make it noise

its like a race car only painted stell nothing bitumen etc

special camshaft in germany we told this hotter camshaft

Paint Marsalla red Metallic Pearl

this only original stock porsche zertifiziert


Anybody now about this Car????

Porsche told me, you have the one an only Car! all other Cars gone to killed in Porsche.. but my Cars comes from Usa in the Year 1991 after Porsche have killed the CS LE Mans Projekt.. in Germany..

i need more info about this cars..

Porsche says we dont give you the information on Paper, this was an Special Project on the 80s. We dont can give your intern Specialinformations.

Here a Pictuer from the Car, the original Tires i have put it in the Garage was 7x16 an 8x 16 Gullideckel Design. the Drive Tires a Dynos..

sorry for my terrible English

regards
stephan

SeanR

Wow, that is fantastic looking.

marton

Only special Le mans 928 I know of is described below but i always thought that was built on a much later chassis circa 1994?
The MaxMoritz semi works 928 GTR
Porsche's Racing Department never officially entered or prepared a racing 928 for a pure works entry.
Only once Porsche decided to make it obvious to the 911 enthusiasts that they usually tended to underrate the racing genes of the 928:
So Porsche "arranged" this 928GTR to compete with the then dominant 911(993GTR) on the race track. In order not to offend sensibilities of their traditional 911/993GTR customers by officially challenging them with an outright Works-928GTR, PORSCHE asked MAX-MORITZ-RACING, their long time private racing partner from next-door-Reutlingen to enter this 928GTR Cup as a semi-works car.


So it didn't come as a surprise, that the drivers were: Bernd Mayländer, Manuel Reuter (Porsche Works Pilots), also Harm Lagaaij (then Head of Porsche's Design Studio).
Vittorio Strosek sponsored MM with his Lightweight-Body-Parts and racing exhaust.
The car was officially entered by PORSCHE-CLUB-SCHWABEN.
Homologation minimum weight had to be, and actually is 1370 kg.
(more infos: „PORSCHE SCENE -Germany- 12/2006 „Frisch aufgelegt: Stroseks Design Klassiker“ and
911&PORSCHE WORLD -GB- May/June 1994 „928 Cup Racer“ )
Lagaaij reports, that the car was very competitive and able to hold most 993GTR down, although the engine was no more than fine-tuned after chosen from a set of high power output specimen in Weissach. In the last race of the season at Hockenheim a crank-bearing ran dry. As the car was supposed to race in 1995 as well, she was made ready to continue her successful competition in the 1995 season. A fresh engine was installed, selected from the same lot of high output engines and tuned as before. But in 1995 Porsche's 928-production came to an end and the car consequently was not raced in the new season.

The late Max Moritz himself then had her join his collection of historic cars. She has never been put on the road again until after his death, when the family sold the car in October 2004 -with only 24500 km on the clock. (Porsche-Weissach is the only documented owner).

Marton

& there was that 928 entered for two succesive years by a French guy but without (I believe) any factory support.

sw928s

hi martin,
youre from switzerland also you speak german?

i dont have an race car, i have an special modell witch is lighter, more power an much more:

hier in deutsch.

hallo martin,

das fahrzeug welches ich besitze ist kein rennfahrzeug sondern war ein angedachtes sondermodell welches nie in serie ging, es sollte eine clubsport version des 928 werden, porsche wollte zum damaligen jahrgang einen 928er für lemans einsetzen, unter planung eines erfolges sollte darufhin ein sondermodell entstehen. was sportlicher ist als der normale 928S durch weniger gewicht etc pp. Dieser ist einer von diesen Fahrzeugen welche der Porsche AG noch bekannt sind.

Die Aussagen beziehen sich aus dem Archiv der Porsche klassik!

marton

Hoi Stephan

Leide habe ich nur ein bisschen Deutsch. Gibt andere hier die können viel besser Deutsch schrieben.

English
Sorry just speak a little German. There are other people who write much better German.

1350Kg sounds very light; usually they are around 1500kg (3350 pounds) I believe.

Do you have a list of options? Usually on a door frame or under the carpet in the hatch.

I have the 1982 Jubiläum 928s model.

Good luck

Marton

puyi

You are right Marton, Boutinaud made his own 928 without the support of the factory. It seems that the car was en 80 or 81 MY 928 S. Boutinaud prepared it on his own and race in Le Mans in 83 & 84.

I was wondering about the 928 all aluminium which raced in the US in 84 or 85. A model similar to this one might be exposed on Porsche Museum. Based on '84 928 S frame. This was the only supported project from the factory for a racing 928.

@ SW928s : you should tell us more about this car, all equipment code, date of first registration and obviously fisrt deutsch matricule, pictures of all the parts that made it special etc.....

Thanks for all

Puyi

6mil928

I love the rims.

puyi

I don't think this car could be called 928 CS. The CS was made between 88 & 89 MY and only 17 was made. I think it was only sale in europe.

I suppose that your car has been made as a prototype, in order to test innovative solution and then, it has been attributed to a porsche director and then sold by the factory by Stuttgart Porsche zentrum, as Porsche usually did it.

Puyi

sw928s

hi

the options code the car has nothing..

on the birth document ist standing: m codes are unknow..

paint: porsche 476 marsalla red metall

seats: unknow

the paint of the electronic kabel are all over white!

the first regestraiton was 9.6.80 the old papernumber 6949049

the power are 228kw 310 hp with k jetronic.. !!!

on the dyno with revidiert engine was the car with 330ps an 420nm the max rps is 7000U/min than come the rpm blocker.

Vilhuer

There were plans for CS like model many years before actual '88-89 CS. IIRR there were some prototype or few prototypes made in '83 MY and they are different than full aluminum body which was first design study on how light car body can be and still be safe and only turned race car later on.

Forum for german language discussion can be found at:
http://www.pff-online.de
Hopefully cars story is told in here also. VIN itself isn't anything special as I think production model VIN set started from 0011 in '81 MY. What is ineresting is production date as it really should be few months later. It would also be interesting to know how fuel tank differs from normal 88L tank. There isn't much space at the back of the car unless body is somehow changed.

sw928s

it is not an offizial modell.. it is an prototyp. one of 15th!

in the archiv documents is the name of this projekt car cs le mans!

mr roman elze told me this! from porsche classic.

928cs

I suppose the VIN is WP0ZZZ92ZBS840011, isn'it?

Can you provide pictures of specific parts, mounting, and also the original rims?
I'm suprised to see a right mirror and side protections on the picture.
Does it have electric seats, rear seats, a radio, intensive windshield washing system, a rear wiper or others luxury items?

What are the engine and gearbox numbers?

Samuel
Owner of a 1989 CS, and living in Le Mans

sw928s

hi errka

12l more on teh big tank.. i have it bigger in ther wheel house the normaly is thigs 10-15cm i have 20cm

the fin is special?!

the german book austen told:

the cars 001-0015 are special protoyps not for sale..

the cars 0016-50 are the first cars for presse or shows an factory owners

the cars 0051-60 are special cars ( for police, saftey car, medical, ons )

in the german 928 club the know the car, the know that is an cs le mans series prototyp but nobody has more infos than this! I seek this..

sw928s

quote:
I suppose the VIN is WP0ZZZ92ZBS840011, isn'it?

Can you provide pictures of specific parts, mounting, and also the original rims?
I'm suprised to see a right mirror and side protections on the picture.
Does it have electric seats, rear seats, a radio, intensive windshield washing system, a rear wiper or others luxury items?

What are the engine and gearbox numbers?
quote end:

The Vin is right.

the car have leather seat in the front, and back, but back was installed later!

i have not much luxury thinks:

no aircondition ( no compressor, no holders no dryer, no cooler in the heating think) but an an aricondition control panel???!!!
no electronic seats
the radio was installed later from the man in the usa? the kabel for the battery was special made
a rear wiper have it
the leather seats are very light the weight was 15kg

928cs

A VIN starts with wp0zzz92z for any Rest of the World (non-US/CAN in fact) 928, from the 1981 model year. So I was surprised to see three 0 into your car's VIN. Can you check this, please?

I don't think the usual "under 0061 numbers are for special cars" applies to the 1981 model year, because i know for sure WP0ZZZ92ZBS800020 and WP0ZZZ92ZBS800040 exist. These cars are regular 1981 model year 928s (non-S) and I doubt Porsche has produced so many special cars for the 1981 model year.